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Human, student, non-Buddhist Buddhist, intellectual masochist. Confident only of my own ignorance. Don't believe anything I say.

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    1. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Apr 16

      Should Buddhism be understood as a weak version of antinatalism?

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    2. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Apr 16
      Replying to @KennethFolk

      I think it's more of an addendum to antinatalism. Antinatalism is a philosophical position. Buddhism, dharma - whatever one wants to call it - is a practical engagement with the question: "Given that I have been born, and experience and suffering are a package deal, what now?"

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    3. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Apr 16
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @KennethFolk

      You then have two choices - and in an enlightened society, both of them would be supported both morally and practically. The choices are: a) suicide b) learn to live in a way that minimizes the amount of suffering in yourself and in others (i.e. awakening)

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    4. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Apr 16
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @KennethFolk

      An enlightened society would be one that is totally honest with itself about the human condition. Dharma shouldn't be esoteric knowledge; it should be a human right. The "what now" question is one everyone should confront, and each person should be allowed to make their choice.

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    5. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 17
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @KennethFolk

      If I placed sugar cube in my mouth and then were tasked with explaining my sensation of taste at that moment to a person who has never tasted sugar at all that would be "esoteric knowledge". People get hung up over "esoteric knowledge".

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    6. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Apr 17
      Replying to @fuzzylogic8250 @KennethFolk

      I was working with the dictionary definition of esoteric, which is "intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest". Dharma is something you have to seek out, whereas it should be taught in every school.

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    7. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 17
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @KennethFolk

      I think teaching dharma in school if fine but good luck that that, realistically speaking. However, I think the definition, while plenty of wiggle room open for meaningful discussion, is exactly the definition of dharma. Not by design or intent. Just, not everybody is into it.

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      Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Apr 17
      Replying to @fuzzylogic8250 @KennethFolk

      Agreed. Realistically, I don't see that happening any time soon -- if ever. Which is a real shame, because I think the project of building a functional civilization is doomed unless we collectively wake up first. We can't create a better reality if we're deluded about this one.

      9:22 PM - 17 Apr 2018
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        2. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 17
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @KennethFolk

          So do you see the inability to collectively wake up and the deluded nature of a society as a reason for one not to practice?

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        3. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Apr 17
          Replying to @fuzzylogic8250 @KennethFolk

          Of course not. I don't think I implied that.

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        4. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 18
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @KennethFolk

          My apologies. I do not mean to put fourth that you implied that however I am just asking what do you think?

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        5. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Apr 18
          Replying to @fuzzylogic8250 @KennethFolk

          No apologies necessary. I think practicing is worthwhile even if you live in a society you don't think is ideal. When it comes down to it, the only thing I know with certainty is that there is suffering. So it's worthwhile to try to reduce one's own suffering and that of others.

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        6. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Apr 18
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @fuzzylogic8250 @KennethFolk

          Someone pointed out to me that it isn't really useful to fantasize abstract notions of an enlightened society. I think that's a good point. It isn't all-or-nothing. What can we do right now? We can help ourselves and others around us, because that is what's directly addressable.

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        7. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 18
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @KennethFolk

          Yeah, I think both statements are very good points.

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