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Human, student, non-Buddhist Buddhist, intellectual masochist. Confident only of my own ignorance. Don't believe anything I say.

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    1. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Apr 13

      There are some pretty significant flaws in the methodology, in my opinion (namely the researcher's inadequate understanding of the whole "no-self" thing, and the lack of importance placed on meditation experience). But it's still worth checking out. I really enjoyed it.

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    2. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Apr 13
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist

      Provocative findings. Real Tibetan monastic Buddhists are even more afraid of death than other people according to researcher. I'll make a bold assertion to stir up trouble: fear of death isn't possible for someone who actually understands Buddhism. Interview begins at 22:00.

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    3. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 13
      Replying to @KennethFolk @Failed_Buddhist

      "Tibetan monastic Buddhists are even more afraid of death than other people according to researcher" Garfield's used a scale that a large body of literature claims is not indexing "fear" but rather basic underlying human concern towards these constructs. Which is not novel.

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    4. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Apr 13
      Replying to @fuzzylogic8250 @Failed_Buddhist

      Can you point me to some of that literature, or get me started in the right direction? When I google "Garfield fear of death," it just returns the study we are discussing.

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    5. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 13
      Replying to @KennethFolk @Failed_Buddhist

      jms Retweeted jms

      Yeah, I assume the Garfield paper is the one you guys are discussing?https://twitter.com/fuzzylogic8250/status/955601517788192770 …

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      jms @fuzzylogic8250
      Replying to @faustroll @chagmed and 3 others
      Here is the Lazar paper. It seems a bit obscure but it references a substantial body of literature that usefulness of the various questionnaires and also broadens the depth of the possible statistical analysis. https://twitter.com/fuzzylogic8250/status/955471814850990081 …
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    6. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Apr 13
      Replying to @fuzzylogic8250 @Failed_Buddhist

      After a quick look at the Lazar paper, I agree it does a better job of considering multiple factors. It matters, for example, whether someone fears death because they see it as personal annihilation or because they are worried their loved ones will struggle when they're gone.

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    7. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 13
      Replying to @KennethFolk @Failed_Buddhist

      Yeah, and the Garfield paper about Tibetan Buddhist fearing death will be cited by general sources for the next ten years (it's already old) but within his sphere of academic literature it is a weak paper. LionsRoar loved it.

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    8. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Apr 13
      Replying to @fuzzylogic8250 @Failed_Buddhist

      On the upside, we can use the Garfield paper as a springboard for our own discussion. So tell me, setting aside any concerns about others... do you fear the end of experience? Assuming others'll be fine without you, is it OK with you if you go to sleep tonight and don't wake up?

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    9. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 13
      Replying to @KennethFolk @Failed_Buddhist

      I used to fear the end of existence a lot more than I do now but it is still a fear it for sure. How do you really wrap your head around that your existence will end? It's difficult to imagine my thread of consciousness coming to an abrupt halt.

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    10. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 13
      Replying to @fuzzylogic8250 @KennethFolk @Failed_Buddhist

      I think I have come to terms with the fact that dying is a natural process. I like what John Lennon said about Taxis.. I like what Yogi's say about "trust me, I've come down from the mountain and it's no big deal" LOL. I fear the process of dying. Tubes/hospitals/meds/pain.

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      Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Apr 13
      Replying to @fuzzylogic8250 @KennethFolk

      Interesting. I do wonder if most people really fear the process of dying rather than the self-annihilation. It's an important distinction.

      9:42 PM - 13 Apr 2018
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        2. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Apr 13
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @fuzzylogic8250

          Agree. I fear suffering. "Tubes/hospitals/meds/pain," as @fuzzylogic8250 puts it. Also humiliation, degradation, insanity, incapacity, & being a burden to others. All of that terrifies me. Being dead, though, as I understand it, is the end of suffering. I don't fear that.

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        3. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 13
          Replying to @KennethFolk @Failed_Buddhist

          I take it you are not a big believer in rebirth? I have been reading about "imagining" lesser rebirth & immense suffering not because they are real but because they open our heads up to dealing with suffering during our final days and finding acceptence. Imagining vs belief.

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        4. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Apr 13
          Replying to @fuzzylogic8250 @Failed_Buddhist

          I don't take seriously the idea that when I die I'll be reborn as something else. I reckon it will just be over. Don't know, of course, but that's my working assumption. Rebirth theory is great for understanding the current situation, moment to moment, day to day.

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        5. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 13
          Replying to @KennethFolk @Failed_Buddhist

          I weary of what people believe. Even Buddhist. This imagining take on things may solve that for me. Like, you know Faith verses Buddhist faith. Imagining is a practice and we are advised to have faith in the practice. I want to study this more.

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        6. jms‏ @fuzzylogic8250 Apr 13
          Replying to @fuzzylogic8250 @KennethFolk @Failed_Buddhist

          Right now I'm going to bed and imagine myself dead. 😂 Maybe I will have more on this tomorrow. Thank you for your time and words.

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        7. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Apr 13
          Replying to @fuzzylogic8250 @KennethFolk

          I for one hope you wake up tomorrow, @fuzzylogic8250.

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