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Human, student, non-Buddhist Buddhist, intellectual masochist. Confident only of my own ignorance. Don't believe anything I say.

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    1. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 19

      Can anyone clear up the following seeming contradiction in Buddhist teachings? On the one hand, there is a lot of talk about the countless lifetimes it takes to arrive at nibbana. This was particularly drilled into us in the Goenka tradition. 1/

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    2. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 19

      On the other hand, in the Satipatthana Sutta the Buddha says the following: [QUOTE]

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    3. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 19

      Verily, monks, whosoever practices these four foundations of mindfulness in this manner for seven years, then one of these two fruits may be expected by him: highest knowledge (arahantship) here and now, or if some remainder of clinging is yet present, the state of non-returning.

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    4. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 19

      O monks, let alone seven years. Should any person practice these four foundations of mindfulness in this manner for six years... five years... four years... three years... two years... one year, then one of these two fruits may be expected by him: highest knowledge...

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    5. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 19

      O monks, let alone a year. Should any person practice these four foundations of mindfulness in this manner for seven months... six months... five months... four months... three months... two months... a month... half a month, then one of these two fruits may be expected by him...

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    6. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 19

      O monks, let alone half a month. Should any person practice these four foundations of mindfulness in this manner for a week, then one of these two fruits may be expected by him: highest knowledge here and now... [/QUOTE]

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    7. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 19

      Obviously, this may likely be dependent on one being able to actually practice mindfulness without distraction for an entire week straight, with a little more distraction for half a month, etc.

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      Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 19

      But it's not impossible by any means to become an arhat in a very short time, let alone in a single lifetime, according to this view. What gives?

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        1. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 19

          And why is it considered so hard to believe someone who proclaims to be an arhat? OF COURSE there are more charlatans than genuine arhats, but it's not like it's totally wild to imagine that somebody who has been practicing for years and years actually jumped off the wheel.

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        2. Vincent Horn  🙏🏼 ❤️‏ @VincentHorn Mar 20
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist

          Whoa, time to go take a nap after all that heavy Buddhist theorizing! 🤪

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        3. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 20
          Replying to @VincentHorn

          Buddhist theorizing and Buddhist philosophy can definitely get pretty tiring haha.

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        2. Vincent Horn  🙏🏼 ❤️‏ @VincentHorn Mar 20
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist

          I had an interesting conversation about these different types of jhanas with Richard Shankman:https://art19.com/shows/buddhist-geeks/episodes/3d9844c4-84db-4dc6-8b5d-611262bfad41 …

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        3. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 20
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          Awesome. I'll give this a listen.

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        1. Vincent Horn  🙏🏼 ❤️‏ @VincentHorn Mar 20
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist

          Leigh Brasington presents an interesting thesis re: concentration jhanas in his recent conversation with @OortCloudAtlas on @DeconstructingU that seems like it could be applicable here.

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        2. Stuart Valentine‏ @VipassanaBoy Mar 20
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          I think it’s simply about how “perfectly” you are practising the four. Doing it perfectly is in some sense synonymous, or just causal of, enlightenment. Anything less than “perfect” takes longer.

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        3. Stuart Valentine‏ @VipassanaBoy Mar 20
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          See eg Shinzen Young who often talks about a truly full experience of a single moment being sufficient.

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        1. Vincent Horn  🙏🏼 ❤️‏ @VincentHorn Mar 20
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist

          I don’t see why something similar couldn’t have happened with vipassana, where a one-in-million level vattainment became the standard that almost no one could achieve. The Visuddhimagga is hard core shit and almost all modern Theravada methods claim it as inspiration.

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        1. Vincent Horn  🙏🏼 ❤️‏ @VincentHorn Mar 20
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          Leigh basically claims that what constitutes jhana in the suttas is much more achievable than what was later formulated in the Visuddhimagga. His theory is that several centuries of meditating onemanship put the most extreme attainments into the stratosphere.

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        1. hidden dragon‏ @anyane Mar 19
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          It could happen in a moment, Zen style. But it may have (or definitely would have) taken several other moments (or lifetimes) of practice to lead up to that one specific moment of realization.

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        1. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Mar 19
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          Upaya

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