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Human, student, non-Buddhist Buddhist, intellectual masochist. Confident only of my own ignorance. Don't believe anything I say.

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    1. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Mar 18

      "Supposing it were possible to have deep, sound sleep forever. Would you want it? If one does not like the kind of happiness that comes with sound sleep, it may be difficult to have a preference for nibbāna." 1/

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    2. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Mar 18

      "If one does not want the happiness of nonexperience, one is still attached to the pleasure of the senses. This attachment is due to craving. It is said that craving actually is the root cause of sense objects." -Sayadaw U Pandita 2/

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    3. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Mar 18

      While nibbana-as-absence-of-experience is a challenging and potentially frightening idea (and not the only interpretation), it's important to understand that many Buddhist scholars (and most Asian Theravada Buddhists) believe it is what the Buddha meant by the word. 3/

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    4. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Mar 18

      Nibbana-as-absence-of-experience is a radical idea to Western ears. It's much more intuitive for us to define nibbana as a kind of blissful experience that is outside of time and somehow doesn't include me, although some essence of my consciousness persists to experience it. 4/

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    5. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Mar 18

      For me, though, there is unimaginable beauty in even the idea of letting go of experience. In fact, I find the idea of absolute peace so comforting that I am often at a loss to express my love affair to those who see it differently. 5/

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    6. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Mar 18

      My goal here is not to convert, but to introduce this very traditional Buddhist understanding to those who may have grown up in a cultural milieux that fears nonexperience and demonizes traditional Buddhists as nihilists or life-haters, which is to miss the point entirely. 6/6

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    7. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 18
      Replying to @KennethFolk

      For most people this would sound like some form of psychopathology. There is a moral dimension to death, and especially suicide, that's ingrained in our culture. From that view, an okay-ness with or outright embrace of non-experience necessarily implies that something is wrong.

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      Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 18
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @KennethFolk

      So the response to this will always be "what's wrong with your experience that you wouldn't mind not having it? Let's fix that!". Problem is, of course, that experience can't be "fixed".

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        2. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Mar 18
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist

          Well put. Probably not a coincidence that The First Noble Truth is The Truth of Dukkha. When experience is itself the cause of suffering, the end of suffering is necessarily the end of experience. Pretty straightforward, really. What a world, what a world!

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        3. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 18
          Replying to @KennethFolk

          Maybe that's what the Buddha was saying, along with a bonus teaching - "while experience is still there, here are some ways to mitigate and deal skillfully with suffering".

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        4. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Mar 18
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist

          That's how I see it, yes. Big idea was "don't get born and you'll be fine." Bonus teaching was "here's how to mitigate the disaster you currently find yourself in."

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        5. Fabiana Cecin  🏴  🌹‏ @fabianacecin Mar 26
          Replying to @KennethFolk @Failed_Buddhist

          Maybe somewhere in the universal mind we are causing these "births" we see "here," in the same sense that you go to the psychologist to figure out that you're in fact the same person that's causing and suffering some sort of misery. And since it's you doing it, you can change it.

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        6. Kenneth Folk‏ @KennethFolk Mar 26
          Replying to @fabianacecin @Failed_Buddhist

          I doubt we have any agency at all. We can pretend to change it, and we should.

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        7. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 26
          Replying to @KennethFolk @fabianacecin

          All we can really do is hope that causes and conditions come together in a configuration that nudges us toward awakening. There's no agency in the sense that we like to believe.

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