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Failed Buddhist

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Human, student, non-Buddhist Buddhist, intellectual masochist. Confident only of my own ignorance. Don't believe anything I say.

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    1. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Mar 2

      Sindre Retweeted Failed Buddhist

      Nailed it. This is my problem with overly scientific emphasis with meditation; you advertise one thing, then present a tool for something completely different.https://twitter.com/Failed_Buddhist/status/969578392055107584 …

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      Failed Buddhist @Failed_Buddhist
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @Triquetrea @SonOfEmerson
      But that's actually irrelevant, because the practice is not about relaxation - it's about radically transforming your relationship to the self and the world. The latter is much harder to study, and must be seen to understand.
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    2. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 2
      Replying to @Triquetrea

      Meditation may in fact be the one case in which the switch is actually much more valuable than the bait. This does make me appreciate your point more, though.

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    3. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 2
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @Triquetrea

      If there turns out to be flimsy evidence that meditation has a measurable impact on things like stress, depression, etc (which is entirely possible), then it'll be dead in the water.

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    4. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 2
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @Triquetrea

      Once your initial ad pitch falls short, it's kinda hard to come back and say your product is actually a hundred times better than you had originally claimed.

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    5. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Mar 2
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist

      I feel that it's a degeneration, a debasement of the practice to do so. The actual lineages never do this, as far as I know. The warning labels come up front; the attitude is fundamentally esoteric anyway. I understand the utilitarian argument, but I think it is deeply flawed.

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    6. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 2
      Replying to @Triquetrea

      Not only that, but it can have dangerous consequences. If you start making serious progress in meditation, there's a decent chance you'll run into periods of psychological chaos (especially if you are predisposed to psychiatric illness and/or using meditation to cope with one).

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      Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 2
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @Triquetrea

      Traditional Buddhist lineages are familiar with this territory. If "mindfulness" is only marketed as stress relief, nobody bothers to learn the deeper nuances. Can't tell you how many clinicians I've met who prescribe mindfulness without much knowledge of what it actually is.

      7:07 AM - 2 Mar 2018
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        2. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Mar 2
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist

          I once recommended meditation to someone, so they unearted a bunch of trauma and said "what the fuck do you want me to do with this?" Took a while to stabilize, but it's better now. That said, not everyone stabilizes. (In fairness, I did mention it could happen - but still.)

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        3. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 2
          Replying to @Triquetrea

          This is why I'm cautious about recommending meditation to people, especially telling them to do retreats. When I do, I try to warn them that it can be both the most beautiful and most terrifying thing they'll ever do. I like Shinzen's idea of an "informed consent for awakening".

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        4. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Mar 2
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist

          Me too. It's one of his absolute best ideas, imo. His precision with language is also appreciated. Even if you disagree, it's easy to see where/why.

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        2. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Mar 2
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @Triquetrea

          (Dr. Willoughby Britton at Brown University has done some interesting work on this.)

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        3. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Mar 2
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist

          Thanks, will be curious to see that.

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