Did Dudjom Lingpa tell you that?
Seems to me that your definition of waking up is coming to agreement with your own views. This is part of what is wrong with institutionalized Buddhism. If I don't agree with you, or have different ways of communicating to a specific audience, then I'm just not awake enough.
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Maybe you're awake in a way that I'm not. Maybe I'm awake in a way that you're not. Maybe both. Maybe neither. I'm not interested in having a dick-measuring contest of enlightenment - that nonsense is a hobby for Buddhist politicians.
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Until we invent an enlightenment meter, no one owns the dharma. I trust the useful things the dharma has taught me; I'm not gonna wait until I shapeshift into a rainbow to share what I've learned from my own experience.
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Attain the thoughtless state in full awareness. That's an initial waking up. Attain the ability to remain in it with strength & stability for as long as needed. That's the refinement of waking up.
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Agreed. After "seeing" emptiness for the first time, though, it's not easy to return there on command, at least not for more than an instant at a time. I just don't see how one could function living without ANY conceptual mental processes 24/7. Many kinds of thoughts are useful.
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