Awakening is not about the stories we tell ourselves about our spiritual experiences. It's about what our experiences tell us about those stories.
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is this because all narratives are bullshit? can you elaborate a bit?
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I was just trying to say that coming up with fancy "spiritual" sounding descriptions of awakening experiences is a waste of time. Usually leads to useless arguments about the metaphysics of consciousness, which is irrelevant.
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In some cases the phenomenological descriptions of meditation serve an important function. Not necessarily ‘awakening experiences’, but in the same field. Can lead to the sort of responses of : - “Oh I’m not going mad after all!” - “Ahh that’s how to get from 1st to 2nd jhana”
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That's certainly true. As long as we recognize that our descriptions are simply tools, then there's no problem. But often the descriptions get so convoluted and esoteric that they're of no use at all.
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