In light of @KennethFolk's recent PSA - reminding us that nirvāṇa=insentience - I'd like to recommend some reading, as a logical question to ask is:
Why not suicide?
@sarahdoingthing's 'Every Cradle is a Grave: Rethinking the Ethics of Birth and Suicide' is great on this topic
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Suicide is a sticky topic for many people...largely for cultural reasons. The main reason I didn't kill myself when I wanted to is that it would devastate my mother, but I have found the acceptance of it as a possibility, freeing, in the past. (NB: I'm not suicidal, don't worry)
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After reflecting on this, one may then think 'well, if I'm going to keep living, what is to be done?' I suspect this relates to how we re-present Zero back to ourselves. How do we frame the unborn, unconditioned? I mentioned this RE:
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For me personally, the teachings of Shinzen and the Mahamudra tradition have been helpful in framing Zero in such a way that it doesn't just become depressing nihilism - they reflect the inseparability of experience and non-expereince, vivid and empty. Others like other stuff.
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People resist this notion of nirvana as Zero, perhaps because they can see the duality of experience and non-experience. Later Buddhisms make practical use of this duality. So we may ask, how does the acceptance of non-experience - zero - impact my experience? What does it do?
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How can people “see the duality of experience and non-experience?” Non-experience is only ever imagined, and hence is an experience. No?
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I suppose imagination is really powerful - certainly powerful enough to make a person resist a concept of annihilation. I’d also say that even before a complete collapse of experience - as in nirodha - it’s not difficult to see experience falling apart. Where does a thought go?
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I’m not claiming authority on this - I was merely sharing my reflection on the topic, pre-caffeinated I might add - so I’m certainly open to hear if you think I’m obviously being an idiot on the topic! Ha
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Whilst we're here: I don't think we really know how the context of a meditative training impacts on the experiences/insights a yogi has or not Noting seems to be conducive to discontinuities in experience, so that gets emphasised, but that emphasis has a particular context to it
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Absolutely. I think the context in which one practices influences the experience one has, to varying degrees of usefulness. There's no one experience which all practices in all contexts lead to. This took me a while to come to terms with, given the rhetoric of Western Buddhism.
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Many wisdom traditions point out that experience is not wisdom and wisdom is not an experience or a state. There may not be an experience that all practices lead to, but perhaps there is a wisdom that many lead to via differing methods
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