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I unironically think climhazard needs a nerf. That shit's so stupid. It's a DP with a huge falling hitbox, give it some fucking lag. I'd honestly take a nair buff just to never deal with an un-whiff-punishable DP again
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It's def not less safe
at least when bowser uses it on shield, theres a chance it pokes. when cloud starts and goes up, he has to either soft land on a plat or commit to your shield, both are crazy unsafe
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I've literally never seen it shield poke, people are just idiots and drop their shields mid-move. The fact that cloud's has so much more mixup potential, large disjoint, more range, and less lag makes it much better imo
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