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🍂Beautifully Desiccated and Fallen Kevin Greenlee
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 🍂Beautifully Desiccated and Fallen Kevin Greenlee

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Ordinariate Catholic. @stinekey Husband. Parish Business Manager. BA in Philosophy from @UCLA. MA in Theology from @regentcollege. Drinks beer and knows things.

Vancouver, WA
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    1. President Rufus T. Firefly‏ @Stewey444 Oct 2
      Replying to @ShamelessPapist

      I don't see condemnation in either passage. Paul doesn't "condemn" works and James doesn't "condemn" faith alone - they both realize we are saved by our faith in Christ but faith (like love) is revealed in behavior.

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    2. Ʈ৸ę PªǷªĻ BµĻĻ‏ @ShamelessPapist Oct 2
      Replying to @Stewey444

      St. Paul says "not by works, so that no one may boast." St. James REPEATEDLY says "not by faith alone." He calls those who would preach that we are saved by faith alone fools. In other words, they do condemn Works Alone AND Faith Alone. We are only justified by Faith AND Works.

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    3. President Rufus T. Firefly‏ @Stewey444 Oct 2
      Replying to @ShamelessPapist

      I'm happy for you that you are so very certain of the mind of God. Hope that works out for you.

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    4. Ʈ৸ę PªǷªĻ BµĻĻ‏ @ShamelessPapist Oct 2
      Replying to @Stewey444

      That is a very disingenuous sentiment to have, as what I said has nothing to do with my personal interpretation/understanding. I am merely quoting the Divinely Inspired Word of God. You are the one ignoring what is plainly said, instead focusing on your personal interpretation.

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    5. President Rufus T. Firefly‏ @Stewey444 Oct 2
      Replying to @ShamelessPapist

      You didn't "merely quote" - you interpret what Paul and James say as "condemnation" of each other's positions even though neither uses that word. You also claim for yourself the ability to label something as "heresy," which is highly interpretive.

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    6. Ʈ৸ę PªǷªĻ BµĻĻ‏ @ShamelessPapist Oct 2
      Replying to @Stewey444

      (1/2) Oh boy, I am starting to think you are being intentionally deceptive rather than willfully ignorant when it comes to representing what I have said. I didn't say Sts Paul and James condemned each other, quite the opposite. I also didn't imply the word condemnation was used.pic.twitter.com/hLeFp5fbLW

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    7. Ʈ৸ę PªǷªĻ BµĻĻ‏ @ShamelessPapist Oct 2
      Replying to @ShamelessPapist @Stewey444

      (2/2) It is a logical fallacy to imply that I was representing them as saying condemnation, while ignoring the fact that by saying not by works alone and not by faith alone, they are condemning anyone who would say the opposite. As far as heresy being highly interpretive? LOL, no

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    8. President Rufus T. Firefly‏ @Stewey444 Oct 2
      Replying to @ShamelessPapist

      Peace be with you.

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    9. Ʈ৸ę PªǷªĻ BµĻĻ‏ @ShamelessPapist Oct 2
      Replying to @Stewey444

      And with your spirit

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    10.  🍂Beautifully Desiccated and Fallen Kevin Greenlee‏ @Ethawyn Oct 2
      Replying to @ShamelessPapist @Stewey444

      While there is a seeming tension between St. Paul's statement that salvation is "not the result of works, so that no one may boast." Yet the context of this explains Paul's meaning. He is speaking of the former division between Jew and Gentile established by the Law's "works"pic.twitter.com/6Yf1ZC5o7N

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       🍂Beautifully Desiccated and Fallen Kevin Greenlee‏ @Ethawyn Oct 2
      Replying to @Ethawyn @ShamelessPapist @Stewey444

      Neither Jew nor Gentile are saved by the works of the law (e.g. circumcision) but by their entrance into the New Covenant by the faith of Jesus Christ. This is not speaking of acts of moral goodness, but of the performance of the ritual works of the Old Law.

      10:22 AM - 2 Oct 2018
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        2.  🍂Beautifully Desiccated and Fallen Kevin Greenlee‏ @Ethawyn Oct 2
          Replying to @Ethawyn @ShamelessPapist @Stewey444

          No good Catholic would claim that we are saved *by* works, but rather that we are not saved without them, because God by his grace gives us the ability to do good and, to paraphrase Augustine, "crowns the gifts he gives."pic.twitter.com/zX2z5H5cgb

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        3.  🍂Beautifully Desiccated and Fallen Kevin Greenlee‏ @Ethawyn Oct 2
          Replying to @Ethawyn @ShamelessPapist @Stewey444

          The canons of the Council of Trent make clear this is the Church's teaching on the subject. I would commend to you this book from Jimmy Akin on what the Church really teaches on justification and its biblical foundations. https://www.amazon.com/Drama-Salvation-Rescues-Delivers-Eternal/dp/1941663125 …pic.twitter.com/67oh8ogAFj

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