Moldbug's disparaging of "ultracalvinism" is ironic asf considering Calvin's emphasis on the Mandate of Heaven & Sovereignty (ostensible NRx positions)pic.twitter.com/D19WnhVucf
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Moldbug's disparaging of "ultracalvinism" is ironic asf considering Calvin's emphasis on the Mandate of Heaven & Sovereignty (ostensible NRx positions)pic.twitter.com/D19WnhVucf
This is like saying "Christianity I will refer too as ultrajudaism, because the only difference is that Jesus is understood as the messiah, & this is only an unimportant metaphysical difference, they're still basically the same"pic.twitter.com/CrNOuJtL9T
It's absolutely insane to say that the Unitarians are Hyper-Calvinists when their metaphysics are COMPLETELY IRRECONCILABLE! This is what I mean when I say Moldbug is ill equipped for theological discussions. To him, all religions are equally "nonsensical" which leads to this.
The point of Moldbug's take on religion is that the metaphysics is the least important part. I remember that was the first thing in UR that caught my attention.
One need not be an atheist to see that doctrinal details often have a limited impact on real-world action. For example, which two belief systems are more alike in (a) theology/metaphysics and (b) in action? 1. Progressivism and Methodism 2. Methodism and Islam
And conversely, one can be an atheist and still classify belief systems by their metaphysics, which leads to poor prediction of their actual effects. That, specifically, was what Moldbug sought to overturn.
"How Dawkins Got Pwned" is still the best reference on this IMHO.https://www.amazon.com/How-Dawkins-Pwned-Mencius-Moldbug-ebook/dp/B01DWM802C/ …
Counterarguments of the form "progressives believe X which protestants didn't, and protestants believed Y which progressives don't, so how can there be some historical connection between them?" completely miss the point
TBF, from what I've read the pattern is MUCH more vibrant with the 19th century protestants, and less so with the actual puritans. The theory could be recast without reference to Jean Calvin at all, but it probably needs the Reformation as a sort of spark to memetic evolution
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