And I'd be very happy to engage on the first two topics. The lattermost I am not informed on. You are also making the exception logical fallacy in your comment, above.
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Replying to @victormlee
There is only one topic, and there is no logical fallacy. I am not here to engage you.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski
Well, with all due respect, I think you need to work on your understanding of logic, then. That happens to be an area of expertise for me. Have a good day.
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Replying to @victormlee
You're such a fucking comical caricature that you argue simultaneously that trans people aren't necessary to shoot down cis people while having *no concept* of the actual topic at hand, why it's relevant, and why it's not a logical fallacy in any way.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski
Again, you completely miss the point. I am not saying your original argument is entirely wrong. There is legitimacy in saying that it helps to have direct, personal experience when making an argument. I just challenge the conclusion that it is always the only viable perspective.
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Replying to @victormlee
You are saying that some X people can shoot down opinions on non-X people. This is not up for debate. This is not a matter of pure logic, this is a matter of HOW ACUTAL PEOPLE WORK IN THE ACTUAL WORLD.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @victormlee
It is IMPOSSIBLE in PRACTICE with REAL PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES to have adequately handle trans/Black/disabled/etc issues without trans/Black/disabled/etc in the room. Period. This is not a universe that operates in pure logic.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @victormlee
This is a universe with finite people with finite knowledge and people who AREN'T a thing cannot in any way contain sufficiently comprehensive knowledge about a state of existence without existing in that state.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @victormlee
One trans person with lived experience is a stronger voice than a hundred cis voices, even if those cis voices are educated allies. Because NONE of those cis voices can accurately speak to even one fragment of trans experience.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski
And, just as I know nothing about you as an individual, I think it'd be hasty to assume you know my experiences or the depth to which I may or may not have been involved closely with the experience of certain transgendered individuals. I'll end with that for now. Have a good one.
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I can easily judge your experience because you have now twice used the incorrect and offensive term "transgendered."
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @victormlee
‘I happen to have *two* friends of the traingenerated persuasion’
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski
Fair enough. Yes, I should have used "transgender" instead of "transgendered."
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