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    1. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo May 15

      I’m conflicted about this post from @anildash. On one hand, I personally think programming consolidating around one language would be a bad thing. On the other hand, I’m sitting on a mountain of data indicating that’s exactly what’s happening.https://medium.com/@anildash/what-if-javascript-wins-84898e5341a …

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    2. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo May 15

      It’s hard to deny that if you’re a company building an API or SDK or anything you expect a developer to use, the most sensible language to target is JavaScript, and resource constraints mean you might not get around to the other languages.

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    3. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo May 15

      This is a problem for other languages but also for JavaScript. It risks becoming a victim of its own success, mis-applied to domains where it is a bad idea. A similar thing happened to SQL databases, in particular MySQL, in the late 90s.

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    4. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo May 15

      Relational databases became so over-used that people rebelled, and threw the SQL baby out with the relational bath water. A lot of utility was lost by abandoning a standard query language, for no particular benefit (the noSQL databases would still be excellent if they used SQL).

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    5. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo May 15

      Developers forced to use JavaScript because of network effects instead of it being a good choice will hate JavaScript, and write it badly. Badly written JavaScript will cause new devs hired to maintain those systems to blame JavaScript itself for these problems.

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    6. Anil Dash‏Verified account @anildash May 15
      Replying to @seldo

      I was worried about that, but I think the sheer number of _other_ languages that target the javascript runtime, or that compile into js, somewhat mitigate this danger, I think? We'll see.

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    7. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski May 15
      Replying to @anildash @seldo

      me, with almost a decade of embedded systems experience, watching advanced JS libraries that simplify access without adding robustness proliferate: abort abort please god no fucking abort

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    8. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski May 15
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @anildash @seldo

      I just watched a tensorflow.js demo doing a thing that I've worked on for years make the same empty, unrealistic promises the past 15 years of tech have made and the only difference is it's making it accessible to people without the training to know better. That's not good.

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    9. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski May 15
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @anildash @seldo

      I see "silicon valley getting into businesses it doesn't belong in" and "tooling granting developers access to spaces they don't belong in" as exactly the same problem.

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    10. Anil Dash‏Verified account @anildash May 15
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @seldo

      I'm torn, because I understand this argument, but also struggle with languages and frameworks being used as barriers to keep groups of people out of certain domains of technology creation.

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      Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski May 15
      Replying to @anildash @seldo

      My counter to that is that in the cases I refer to, the tooling/programming isn't the principle barrier to technology creation.

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        2. Anil Dash‏Verified account @anildash May 15
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @seldo

          Yeah, I think we're speaking to slightly different aspects. The ideal solution is technologies being widely accessible, but with ethics and social considerations intrinsic to their learning.

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        3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski May 15
          Replying to @anildash @seldo

          Also not for nothing, there are still problems with existing technical barriers where the technical barrier isn't programming. Such as human sensing, flight control, process optimization, material science, etc.

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        4. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski May 15
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @anildash @seldo

          3D printing is a great example. Everyone jumped on board the 3D printing hype without even asking if there were open problems in material science that still limit what we can create.

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        5. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski May 15
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @anildash @seldo

          SV 5 years ago: "Soon we'll be 3D printing replacement parts for everything, like dishwashers and jet engines!" me, neck deep in a 3 year NASA nickel hot corrosion research project: "what the fuck?"

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