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Lead Data Scientist, activist, survivor. Was actually assaulted by an actual right-wing terrorist. Opinions belong only to me, especially the bad ones. she/they

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    Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Apr 29

    Ok fuck it here's my discourse take: bi and pan have no practical differences in a world where communication is a multi-party act, beyond substituting endless linguisticating for material queer activism.

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      2. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Apr 29

        Use whatever fits you best but let's stop pretending we're not retconning definitions and that somehow by doing so we are deeply advancing queer rights for what ends up being largely white, English-as-a-first-language populations.

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      3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Apr 29

        We have invented a dozen new English language terms before even stopping to consider the status of gender minority rights in immigrant and non-English speaking/ESL populations even here in America.

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      4. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Apr 29

        Who, by the way, are often sleeping on the bare ass concrete floors in ICE detention centers.

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      2. hetless horseman‏ @endlessbats Apr 29
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        it is hard to know what to do with the vocabulary-first crowd, this argument seems super strong but I dunno if people who don't think about poly-lingualism would be able to hear it

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      3. hetless horseman‏ @endlessbats Apr 29
        Replying to @endlessbats @EmilyGorcenski

        as far as I can tell monolingual people think words are basically magic and it is very hard to get em to back away from themselves for a second to realize the sounds they make don't necessarily correspond 1:1 to reality

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      4. Zoe Klingenfels‏ @klingenfels_zoe Apr 29
        Replying to @endlessbats @EmilyGorcenski

        Like the fact that I'm transgender in English and transsexuell in German. Words have a negotiated meaning, literal translations don't mean anything and meanings shift with needs and times...

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      5. hetless horseman‏ @endlessbats Apr 29
        Replying to @klingenfels_zoe @EmilyGorcenski

        one of the words for gender in French is "genre" which blew my mind, I think we'd understand it better in English if we used the same term a set of not-wholly-agreed-upon and largely arbitrary categories into which we slot things [or people] and over which we argue constantly

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      6. Zoe Klingenfels‏ @klingenfels_zoe Apr 29
        Replying to @endlessbats @EmilyGorcenski

        The German word Geschlecht both means gender and (noble) heritage, but in some rare cases it can mean genre as well.

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      7. hetless horseman‏ @endlessbats Apr 29
        Replying to @klingenfels_zoe @EmilyGorcenski

        I almost brought up Geschlecht because it's always confused me with the "schlecht" in there, thought it might in some way be to do with some notion of sin although obvs Sünde its own thing but apparently it's etymologically distinct from schlecht

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      1. Erin Eldridge‏ @ChateauErin Apr 29
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        Lots of people seem to see words as places to show off their collection of Greek and Latin bits, rather than as ways to communicate concepts to other beings

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      1. JoJo‏ @JoJolyne_ Apr 29
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        My girlfriend and I agree. The labels are fine, whatever helps you understand yourself, but the point of them is self-discovery and inclusion. I see them too often be used as some sort of purity test for divisive purposes.

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      1. masukomi‏ @masukomi May 1
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        More importantly, it's an affirmation by someone that the states beyond boy and girl are worthy of their love

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      2. Cat‏ @cpmautomatrix Apr 29
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        I appreciate having explicit wording for “The gender binary is bullshit and my mating habits reflect my understanding of this”, tbh.

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      3. fk transmisogyny‏ @fktransmisogyny Apr 29
        Replying to @cpmautomatrix

        You're missing the point.

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      4. Cat‏ @cpmautomatrix Apr 29
        Replying to @fktransmisogyny

        Nope. Not missing the point. I agree that we have big priorities as a community and many of them are MUCH more dire than wording. However, I think we can prioritize those things AND clearly express our identities.

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      1. masukomi‏ @masukomi May 1
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        I think that's where we should be, but right not it does serve to make many folks go "wait. What? There's something beyond boy or girl?"

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