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    1. :- chris_martens‏ @chrisamaphone Apr 22

      :- chris_martens Retweeted Jimmy Song (송재준)

      Fun exercise: run down this list and think about which ones would have been relevant 10 years ago, and make guesses about which ones will be relevant 10 years from now.https://twitter.com/jimmysong/status/987662491730657280 …

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      Jimmy Song (송재준) @jimmysong
      Stuff CS departments should teach, but don't do very well: * Source control, esp. git * How to do effective code review * How to read API documentation * Publishing your own library * Command-line basics * Debugging and fixing for the long term * Refactoring w/unit tests
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    2. mcc‏ @mcclure111 Apr 22
      Replying to @chrisamaphone

      ;squints; … … … all of them? actually i pretty clearly remember my brother (a non-CS professor) complaining like… 8 years ago that the cs students he was hiring for his project were all useless cuz none of them knew source control

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    3. :- chris_martens‏ @chrisamaphone Apr 22
      Replying to @mcclure111

      It’s a very useful skill, and one that’s quite well suited to the approach of “here’s [favored VCS of the day]’s basics in half an hour and here’s the docs”. No need to devote classroom time, it seems?

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    4. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Apr 22
      Replying to @chrisamaphone @mcclure111

      In Aero/Mech engineering, we had a similar set of 'meta-skills.' These were adequately taught in prof. development and team-oriented classes.

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    5. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Apr 22
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @chrisamaphone @mcclure111

      'Here's how to use git' is a weekend workshop. 'Here's how to use git effectively in a complex multi-person project' is worthy of being a gradeable part of a class.

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    6. mcc‏ @mcclure111 Apr 22
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @chrisamaphone

      I mean, I continue to believe it is not possible either to teach git or to learn it, but that's a separate discussion

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    7. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Apr 22
      Replying to @mcclure111 @chrisamaphone

      Replace git with whatever you want. The point is that the list above is largely intersected with collaborative skills, which can be trained.

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    8. mcc‏ @mcclure111 Apr 22
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @chrisamaphone

      Oh, absolutely don't replace git with something I want. Git is what they'll use in the workplace But my point is, git is more complicated than it should be in a way that increases the amount of time you need to spend on it to teach it usefully

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      Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Apr 22
      Replying to @mcclure111 @chrisamaphone

      I feel like this discussion is focusing on a specific thing when I was using it as an exemplar of a general matter. I don't disagree with your point per se.

      8:29 PM - 22 Apr 2018
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        1. mcc‏ @mcclure111 Apr 22
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @chrisamaphone

          Sorry, my point was just, if you give someone the half an hour version of git, they won't know what to do with "detached HEAD". I was trying to concur with your point about learning-for-real-world-use-requires-more-time but tripped on my own snarkiness

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        1. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH Apr 22
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @mcclure111 @chrisamaphone

          this but for every argument I get into on this hellsite

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