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    Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Mar 19

    The Uber self-driving car death is not a big deal because it's a self-driving car and they're actually safer. It's a big deal because it's not actually clear if they companies can be held liable for the death.

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      2. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Mar 19

        Self-driving cars aren't an ethical issue because of a trolley problem, they're an ethical issue because of the many and varied breeches to sociopolitical status quo they represent.

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      3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Mar 19

        They represent the perfect capitalist mode: pure profit with no labor and no liability. They are an accelerant of monopolistic growth.

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      2. Suomen Tiirikointipalvelu‏ @JaakkoFagerlund Mar 21
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @WinnetkaCA

        Was "the company" behind the controls of that car? If there was a human behind the controls, it is that persons fault. If there was no one behind the controls, who started the car and allowed it to self drive? Common sense people.

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      3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Mar 21
        Replying to @JaakkoFagerlund @WinnetkaCA

        Please read any of the dozens of reports on this topic instead of just spouting "common sense." Like start here: https://works.bepress.com/curtis_karnow/9/download/ … Or here:http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/selfdriving_liability_highly_automated_vehicle …

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      4. Suomen Tiirikointipalvelu‏ @JaakkoFagerlund Mar 21
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @WinnetkaCA

        Yes, I've read "dozens" of articles on this and even the two you mentioned do not conflict with what I said - if there is control surfaces available for human to use, then it is the humans responsibility as the "driver". Very simple, very common sense.

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      5. Suomen Tiirikointipalvelu‏ @JaakkoFagerlund Mar 21
        Replying to @JaakkoFagerlund @EmilyGorcenski @WinnetkaCA

        It is completely different thing when the cars autonomous system fails and that is something a "driver" (operator?) can't predict and only then becomes the software developer or part manufacturer responsibility into question.

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      2. I may never eat a mushroom again‏ @MacinEwa Mar 19
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        Hadn’t thought about that part. One would think the company is liable exactly because there is no human involved in the accident.

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      3. spookyiconicity‏ @evanburchard Mar 19
        Replying to @MacinEwa @EmilyGorcenski

        Except the cities will foot the bill before they'd come anywhere close to threatening the partnership. They're already excusing the death on Uber's behalf.

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      2.  🏳️‍🌈 Ashley  🏳️‍🌈‏ @Singularity9117 Mar 19
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @destroyeroftroy

        This is a joke right

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      3. unknown‏ @statdreams Mar 19
        Replying to @Singularity9117 @EmilyGorcenski @destroyeroftroy

        Liability is a function of law, which is something that people have to develop and write down and enforce, so not a joke

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      2. AB Said  🦁‏ @flex_malcolm Mar 20
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        When you die it won't be a big deal either

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      3. L. Katzakian-Gipson‏ @Gipigrl Mar 20
        Replying to @flex_malcolm @EmilyGorcenski

        Well said @flex_malcom Ya, probably a big deal to her family! Hope they sue the shit outta Uber!

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      1. Matthew C‏ @TheWriteGuyUK Mar 20
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        "It's a big deal not* because..." - not "its not a big deal because..." Also, the suggestion of someone dying "not being a big deal" in some/any way (irrespective of how) is a bit insensitive. Clumsy tweet on all counts.

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      1. David G Hipster‏ @DavvvidG Mar 20
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        It might be a big deal to the person who was killed....?

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      2. YerrikTHEREALBooooooooo‏ @YerrikTRB Mar 20
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        They're not actually safer, unless you're talking about on a closed track.

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      3. YerrikTHEREALBooooooooo‏ @YerrikTRB Mar 20
        Replying to @YerrikTRB @EmilyGorcenski

        p.s. your tweet is grossly insensitive.

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      2. Matthew England‏ @Rustinurse Mar 20
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        Having attended this type of incident each and every one is a very big deal

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      2. ⣗⡲⡯⠝ ⢎⣉⣉⣉⣉⣉⡱‏ @badp Mar 20
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        If I was a betting men I'd bet on Uber successfully shift the blame on the person at the wheel overseeing the car on this one As for Waymo's actually-driverless taxi service thing they're launching… that'll be interesting

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      3. Karen McCabe‏ @mccabk Mar 20
        Replying to @badp @EmilyGorcenski

        It was her fault if she was crossing on a green light outside of the crosswalk. Pedestrians should follow laws and pay attention. Why is this the cars fault?

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      4. ⣗⡲⡯⠝ ⢎⣉⣉⣉⣉⣉⡱‏ @badp Mar 20
        Replying to @mccabk @EmilyGorcenski

        because it's also illegal to kill people, Karen

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