Critics of that have pointed out that Spencer pulls literally fives of people to his rallies and it's not working out. They argue that anyone on the far right is gonna be called a Nazi anyways, so one may as well just become a Nazi.
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You had me up until the very last sentence of which I’m deeply skeptical. I guess we’ll see in the coming weeks and months/I hope you’re right.
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There will be a new alt-right, something that emerges. This version is in its death throes, though. My prediction is what emerges is a euro-style identitarian movement.
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Ah this version, ok I see what you mean. And by “Euro style identitiarian movement,” do you mean à la the “awakened European” politics of Identity Evropa or like the kind of fascistic politics we actually see in Europe?
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Something kind of in-between. IE ie kind of a weird spinoff of that identitarianism, and I think it'll move more towards the fascistic politics of Euro identitarianism, perhaps not as far gone as Hungary and Poland but in that direction.
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Heimbach recently traveled to Brno, for instance, and fascistic Euro identitarianism is in a lot of ways similar to the Appalachian working class politick he tried to coopt. The framework is there for sure.
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Question from outside of the US: How do the private chats compare with their more visible discussions on /pol or voat?
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Much the same, edgier perhaps, more infighting, more explicit plans for violence
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Interesting. My limited impression was that it was more co-ordinated than I expected with more genuinely self-described fascists.
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I would not describe it as "coordinated." I would describe it ad "shitshow"
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I’m not sure whether to be relieved or horrified!
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I was wondering what you think the media's role in halting the alt-right has been?
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I was listening to this and it gave me a lot to think abouthttps://www.wnycstudios.org/story/on-the-media-2018-03-02/ …
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And this. Should the alt-right be covered aggressively or does more attention inadvertently help them? Your thoughtshttps://www.wnycstudios.org/story/kkk-media-history/ …
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That is a dangerous statement. Perhaps a better phrasing, the idea of alt right as a cohesive group is over but it may well turn into a number of independent cells of terrorists who lack what little restraint was placed on them from above.
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The alt-right has always been a number of independent cells only vaguely assembled to a common goal. The alt-right as it has existed today is done, however. A new alt-right will emerge and it remains to be seen what factions will dominate.
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Let us hope it is not the religion side of kek nor the siegers. Let us hope it is more idiots like heimbach who flame up and burn out in a year. Let us hope their leadership potential has been squandered.
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And let us prepare for the worse cases of terror the u.s. has seen. I suspect, Austin TX blind bombings will only be the start.
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So much credit and love to the folks who put their bodies on the line in order to fight this WN threat. Despite endless criticism from moderates, these tactics have worked. We'll never know how bad things could have gotten without y'all.
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From your mouth to God's ear.
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