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Lead Data Scientist, activist, survivor. Was actually assaulted by an actual right-wing terrorist. Opinions belong only to me, especially the bad ones. she/they

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    1. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @chaos_stuff

      Yes, you are explaining very basic 101 level stuff to me

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    2. whatever-being‏ @chaos_stuff 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

      Then I suppose I don’t understand exactly what you’re getting at. The logic doesn’t follow that just because you have to give more info about you personally, why this then means you should put yourself and others at even more risk by engaging with a state investigation?

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    3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @chaos_stuff

      That's not the conclusion I'm drawing. I'm saying that being trans by itself *already* puts you at that risk level, regardless. That it's part of the value calculus.

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    4. whatever-being‏ @chaos_stuff 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

      I can see how it puts you at *more* risk, but not how it’s the same as cooperating with an investigation clearly meant to drum up info on anti-fascists. If they wanted to dismantle the Right, they would have. Their opsec is god awful

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    5. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @chaos_stuff

      Yeah I'm not talking about any specific investigation with this thread. I'm talking generally.

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    6. whatever-being‏ @chaos_stuff 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

      Ok then that makes total sense, just seemed to be in the context of your participation in this investigation. We obvi can’t hold each other all to the same standard as we aren’t all starting from the same place.

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    7. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @chaos_stuff

      Trust me, I've been dragged plenty by cis anarchists for pressing charges against Cantwell. I'm not defensive about that. I don't need to be.

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    8. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @chaos_stuff

      Cis anarchists can either choose to support survivor autonomy in a context they don't understand or not. They can trust me or not. Frankly don't care.

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    9. whatever-being‏ @chaos_stuff 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

      This isn’t the same thing as an attack on the street. This was collective, political action that invites state repression further into entire movements. Those two things aren’t the same. And it’s not just cis anarchists that think this.

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    10. whatever-being‏ @chaos_stuff 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @chaos_stuff @EmilyGorcenski

      Also im not “dragging” you. I acknowledge the dynamics here are complex, but I think you’re conflating two different scenarios that involve different dynamics of their own that require different responses

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      Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @chaos_stuff

      Which amounts to "bury your trans needs for the greater collective which has historically demonstrated a pattern of not supporting your needs."

      9:13 AM - 28 Nov 2017
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        2. whatever-being‏ @chaos_stuff 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          The greater collective includes other trans folks and people of color. People with records. People that don’t want any more exposure to the state than they already have to deal with. Don’t erase that.

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        3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @chaos_stuff

          I am not erasing that nor have I endangered that. I am explicitly supporting the autonomy of marginalized people to survive.

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        4. whatever-being‏ @chaos_stuff 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          And I’m saying however well intentioned you may be, many folks don’t feel that way and they aren’t all cis people 🤷🏼‍♀️

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        5. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @chaos_stuff

          People can feel about me however they want.

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