It is up to every individual to decide what their risk level is, to determine with the most information possible whether they choose to cooperate or not. But part of that informed process is knowing that the feds can use you to get to other people.
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Sure. Since I don't have time to watch the video(s), is there a warning that refusing to testify can lead to incarceration? Because it can.
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I dunno. I'm on shitty wifi here. My advice is to get a lawyer. They will inform each individual of all the risks, this included. What I do aim to do is not create panic that could lead to someone doing something *damaging.*
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @TimSEsq and
This process was a long time coming. It will be handled. There is no blindside here. And it's important for everyone to know that acting rashly can make a lot of things a lot worse for a lot of people.
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I absolutely endorse not doing anything without considering potential legal consequences for self and others. Acting rashly can very easily create legal trouble that is otherwise avoidable. For those interested in more info, Google 'popehat 18 USC 1001'
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Replying to @TimSEsq @EmilyGorcenski and
Non-cooperation can lead to incarceration for the length of the grand jury but is still the safest path for all activists, to think otherwise is to ignore the long history of grand juries concerning leftist movements. Build a wall of solidarity, never talk to feds!
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Replying to @thirtybeervet @TimSEsq and
It is important to note that not all people who may be vulnerable are leftists or anarchists, or able to sustain prolonged incarceration. Some were people literally just passing through.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @TimSEsq and
Whoever those folks are, they need to understand the political context and the motivations of this administration and the feds regardless of their own politics. Maybe incarceration can’t be asked of all but all should be aware that cooperation can sink movements.
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Replying to @thirtybeervet @EmilyGorcenski and
If you are subpoenaed to appear before a grand jury or if you are sitting in front of a grand jury, compliance/cooperation and risking incarceration are the only realistic options. Being aware that compliance can harm activists doesn't add another option.
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Replying to @TimSEsq @EmilyGorcenski and
This also goes further than just the subpoenas. Before you are served the feds may try to interview your friends, coworkers, or family about you. It’s essential to build a culture of community resistance and solidarity.
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Of course. But this thread is about the subpoenas. I am happy to discuss many of the complex realities of this philosophy out of thread if you'd like.
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