I didn't say it wasn't new, I said it was established, which it absolutely was. I don't dispute that different groups exist. I dispute that nitpicking that different groups exist has any meaningful outcome-based impact.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @egavactip and
One could argue that there is value in distinction when it comes to counter-recruitment. But in terms of violence and measured outcomes, it actually doesn't matter whether James Fields wore a swastika or a Vanguard America logo on his shirt.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @ARScott5875 and
1. You are certainly persistent in trying to explain white supremacy to me. It does matter, of course. Different white supremacist segments can be more or less active, or rising or falling, simultaneously. In the 1980s-1990s, for example, Christian Identity
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Replying to @egavactip @EmilyGorcenski and
2. was one of the main sources of white supremacist violence. Today it is far less significant as a source of violence--so someone trying to deter or investigate white supremacist violence would be errant in placing too many resources there.
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Replying to @egavactip @EmilyGorcenski and
3. Or, for another example, racist skinheads are far more likely to attack the homeless (they have committed a number of murders against the homeless) than other types of white supremacists are.
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Replying to @egavactip @ARScott5875 and
I am not trying to explain white supremacy to you nor am I trying to invalidate these distinctions. What I am trying to do is--as a survivor--critique your dismissal of the alt-right's terrorism (and that of their allies) as what it is.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @ARScott5875 and
The only thing I "dismissed" was the notion that Cernovich and Prosobiec were terrorists. I did not suggest that the alt right was not dangerous or even that adherents had not engaged in acts that were arguably terrorism--or might engage in more in the future.
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Replying to @egavactip @ARScott5875 and
Emily G Retweeted Mark Pitcavage
I read this tweet as logically connected with its prior. Perhaps my misreading.https://twitter.com/egavactip/status/932346278666735616 …
Emily G added,
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @ARScott5875 and
That was just a response to someone calling alt right a "weaker equivalent of Al Qaeda." (I earlier misremembered it as ISIS) That is what my tweet objected to, because, far from being Al Qaeda, the alt right so far is not even the most violent segment of the ws movement.
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Replying to @egavactip @ARScott5875 and
Perhaps the era of rallies is over, but as far as I am concerned they all organized together in Charlottesville, and so the violence that happened belongs to all of them. So setting our window to the past year, I see no distinction.
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They will all soon be indicted. They'll all go down together.
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