No, they are not terrorists. "Terrorist" does not mean "people who cause harm."
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Vanguard America was not established, it is a new group. As for the others, if there are no distinctions between them, then why did you mention Klan and NSM separately? The fact is that there are a number of different types of white supremacists and distinctions matter.
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I didn't say it wasn't new, I said it was established, which it absolutely was. I don't dispute that different groups exist. I dispute that nitpicking that different groups exist has any meaningful outcome-based impact.
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One could argue that there is value in distinction when it comes to counter-recruitment. But in terms of violence and measured outcomes, it actually doesn't matter whether James Fields wore a swastika or a Vanguard America logo on his shirt.
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1. You are certainly persistent in trying to explain white supremacy to me. It does matter, of course. Different white supremacist segments can be more or less active, or rising or falling, simultaneously. In the 1980s-1990s, for example, Christian Identity
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2. was one of the main sources of white supremacist violence. Today it is far less significant as a source of violence--so someone trying to deter or investigate white supremacist violence would be errant in placing too many resources there.
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3. Or, for another example, racist skinheads are far more likely to attack the homeless (they have committed a number of murders against the homeless) than other types of white supremacists are.
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I am not trying to explain white supremacy to you nor am I trying to invalidate these distinctions. What I am trying to do is--as a survivor--critique your dismissal of the alt-right's terrorism (and that of their allies) as what it is.
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And mind you, I am coming at this from the perspective of the person who wrote the document warning Charlottesville officials of the violence to come, as someone who correctly predicted 2 months before that Vanguard would commit a terrorist attack at UTR...
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What's the difference between the alt right, vanguard, the NSM, and the KKK? They all stood on different sides of the statue when they surrounded us and beat us.
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