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Lead Data Scientist, activist, survivor. Was actually assaulted by an actual right-wing terrorist. Opinions belong only to me, especially the bad ones. she/they

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    1. Scare-icaJoy‏Verified account @EricaJoy 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EricaJoy @lizthegrey

      (I mean honestly, I doubt actual policy _discussion_ is happening at all, but that's a thread for another time.)

      1 reply 2 retweets 8 likes
    2. Scare-icaJoy‏Verified account @EricaJoy 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EricaJoy @lizthegrey

      I don't think this is a situation to hand-wring about access & responsibility. Nothing about the 45 situation is normal. SOP does not apply.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    3. Scare-icaJoy‏Verified account @EricaJoy 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EricaJoy @lizthegrey

      One of the most frustrating things about what has happened since November of 2016 is that people continue to behave like things are normal.

      1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
    4. Scare-icaJoy‏Verified account @EricaJoy 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EricaJoy @lizthegrey

      Nothing about this is normal. A normal world leader does not threaten nuclear war with a social media site. We can't apply the normal rules.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    5. Scare-icaJoy‏Verified account @EricaJoy 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EricaJoy @lizthegrey

      But if you want to follow normal rules, what happened was w/in scope of normal rules. CS reps take down accounts all the time.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Scare-icaJoy‏Verified account @EricaJoy 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EricaJoy @lizthegrey

      We all knew any CS rep could do an account take down. We trust them to do this. The question becomes why are we now bothered by it?

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    7. Scare-icaJoy‏Verified account @EricaJoy 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EricaJoy @lizthegrey

      Why are folks suddenly concerned that the normal process of a CS rep involves access and authority to do account take downs?

      3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    8. Liz Fong-Jones‏ @lizthegrey 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EricaJoy

      Because of going out of way to do it to one specific user. And breakdown of "of course you'll be caught, therefore don't do it" deterrent.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Liz Fong-Jones‏ @lizthegrey 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @lizthegrey @EricaJoy

      I understand why many are happy this happened the way it did. I'm worried it corrupts into other rogue actions, and not just against Trump.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    10. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @lizthegrey @EricaJoy

      But Trump isn't every other user, he is fundamentally different, and in any case these abilities *always* existed, evidently. That's key.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 3 Nov 2017
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @lizthegrey @EricaJoy

      The argument re: slippery slope doesn't really hold, because we have apparently always been on this slope, and it's never been slippery.

      7:15 AM - 3 Nov 2017
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        2. Liz Fong-Jones‏ @lizthegrey 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @EricaJoy

          A lot of layers in user data protection systems at various cos are built on auditing access afterwards. This isn't a giant surprise to me.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Liz Fong-Jones‏ @lizthegrey 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @lizthegrey @EmilyGorcenski @EricaJoy

          They're usually effective as part of a defense in depth strategy because they make risk far larger than reward.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Liz Fong-Jones‏ @lizthegrey 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @lizthegrey @EmilyGorcenski @EricaJoy

          I'm worried that either of two things happens: (1) Twitter makes example of this person, or (2) the risk/reward equation changes for future

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Liz Fong-Jones‏ @lizthegrey 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @lizthegrey @EmilyGorcenski @EricaJoy

          Both of them are not great; (1) means sending someone to jail, (2) will embolden white supremacists to further go rogue at techcos.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @lizthegrey @EricaJoy

          I doubt anyone will see jail. Civil action maybe. But the rapid restoration speaks against any real harm done.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 3 Nov 2017
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @lizthegrey @EricaJoy

          Also I'm an anarchist. 🤣

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