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Lead Data Scientist, activist, survivor. Was actually assaulted by an actual right-wing terrorist. Opinions belong only to me, especially the bad ones. she/they

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    Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 7 Aug 2017

    Emily G Retweeted Aaron Kahn

    Science is not amoral, nor is it fixed, nor does it exist outside of cultural context.https://twitter.com/AaronKahn8/status/894759466721173504 …

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    Aaron Kahn @Rainovertrees
    Replying to @aczaj @MattPodowski and 2 others
    Science is amoral, and he's not factually wrong. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3149680/ …
    8:20 PM - 7 Aug 2017
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      2. Matthew Gunn‏ @TopGunn41 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        I'm not sure this is correct. A spade can be used in archaeology and/or to dig mass graves. The tool is amoral though the user misapplies it

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @TopGunn41

        Science is not a tangible physical object. Your metaphor fails.

        3 replies 1 retweet 1 like
      4. Matthew Gunn‏ @TopGunn41 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        Science doesn't have to be an object for the metaphor to work. That's why poets can metaphorize love and why you, yourself, 1/2

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      2. Aaron Kahn‏ @Rainovertrees 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        Are you saying that the measured average differences between men and women differ depending on how you look at it? That's not how it works

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Chris Shenton‏ @ChrisShenton1 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @Rainovertrees @EmilyGorcenski

        It's not that the numbers change, but what a metric means & doesn't mean can change drastically depending on how you look at it

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
      4. Chris Shenton‏ @ChrisShenton1 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @ChrisShenton1 @EmilyGorcenski

        And that goes all the way down to how good of a measurement something is for what you suppose it to be measuring (ex: IQ as intelligence)

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      2. Aaron Kahn‏ @Rainovertrees 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        The facts stay the facts. You can decide afterwards what to do or not to do abut them. That's when morality comes into it.

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      3.  🖥️ 🏳️‍🌈unsafe fn bot()  ➡️ impl Geysers‏ @KardOnIce 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @Rainovertrees @EmilyGorcenski

        I think you're misunderstanding this. The theoretical, purely utopic version of science may be like that. That's not science in practice.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      4.  🖥️ 🏳️‍🌈unsafe fn bot()  ➡️ impl Geysers‏ @KardOnIce 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @KardOnIce @EmilyGorcenski

        Science itself cannot exist without the sociocultural biases surrounding it. To assume such is a fallacy.

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
      5.  🖥️ 🏳️‍🌈unsafe fn bot()  ➡️ impl Geysers‏ @KardOnIce 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @KardOnIce @EmilyGorcenski

        Science aims to eliminate such biases, but by its own metrics, does a pretty poor job at that.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      6. Aaron Kahn‏ @Rainovertrees 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @KardOnIce @EmilyGorcenski

        Yes, these studies would mean nothing to a forgotten tribe in the Amazon. That does not mean that these averages do not exist.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Aaron Kahn‏ @Rainovertrees 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @Rainovertrees @KardOnIce @EmilyGorcenski

        Studies are done on large groups and are replicated and used to predict things and see if the prediction are correct to avoid bias.

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      8. Aaron Kahn‏ @Rainovertrees 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @Rainovertrees @KardOnIce @EmilyGorcenski

        These averages are as close to fact as any observation made about people. They predict, are replicable and have been done on many.

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      9.  🧠 Grant R. Vousden-Dishington‏ @usethespacebar 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @Rainovertrees @KardOnIce @EmilyGorcenski

        "As close to fact as any" is not the same as close to fact. It's well known that a lot of psych studies have limits. http://science.sciencemag.org/content/349/6251/aac4716 …

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      1. Jordan's Horror Den ☀ 👀‏ @TheRavenousDyke 7 Aug 2017
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        Cue arm waving Paul Feyerabend picture.

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      1. brainfromarous‏ @brainfromarous 8 Aug 2017
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        And just like that, your credibility is gone. Nice magic trick, Em. Beats the hell out of palming cards.

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