I don't want to call bullshit, both because it's rude and because it feels dangerous to call men on technical BS when I've admitted n00bdom.
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Replying to @betsythemuffin
Leaves me without any good reactions because Elixir processes just *are* objects by any meaningful definition of the term.
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Replying to @betsythemuffin
Also leaves me without a way to talk about the functional/OO hybrid the language manages -- which is the neat thing about it to start with!
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Replying to @betsythemuffin
So I guess I wonder what people who don't think Elixir is OO see in it in the first place. I guess it's hype cycle BS?
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Replying to @betsythemuffin
Or, more generously (& hopefully more accurately) they're seeing the same hybrid I do, but don't have words for it b/c we teach so poorly.
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Replying to @betsythemuffin
@betsythemuffin I think you're running into the _rampant_ No True Scotsman about object orientation. Everyone has their pet definition.2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @aredridel
@aredridel@betsythemuffin "object oriented" is the most overloaded term I can think of in coding, to the point of being almost meaningless2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @EmilyGorcenski
@aredridel@betsythemuffin I'm not even sure the term "object" has any meaning, either, as a consequence of trying to/not to fit the term OO1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @EmilyGorcenski
@aredridel@betsythemuffin I can't think of a single thing that "object" entails that is unique to & universal across languages claiming OO.3 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @EmilyGorcenski
@EmilyGorcenski@aredridel So, I think there's a kernel of meaningful concept there, even if it's clouded by decades of nerdfighting....2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@betsythemuffin @aredridel That's just it. Also, the usage is so often based on the backing tools that existed at language conception.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski
@EmilyGorcenski@betsythemuffin violent agreement.0 replies 0 retweets 0 likesThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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