Yes, and we need to be less surprised by this and figure out better counter-strategies, because the old ones aren’t working and treating the Proud Boys like we treat Patriot Front is ineffective at best and counterproductive at worst.https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1050987197019475968 …
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I don’t have a lot of great answers here but what is the most concerning is how close the PBs are to the police and to mainstream political bodies. That’s something the identitarian groups haven’t had quite as much.
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Anyhow, this is what Proud Boys do and get away with and we need a solution like right fucking now.https://twitter.com/leftkist/status/1050973870511939584?s=21 …
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This is what the neo-Nazis think of the Proud Boys in their own chats.pic.twitter.com/qKDeo4ljb4
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didnt u say nazis hate them like 3 tweets up
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The Nazis hate them for a variety of reasons, one of them being that the PBs skate past many of the same obstacles that some of the WN1.0 and 2.0 groups stumble badly on
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r u talking abt the american nazi party
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They took Umberto Eco's fashy characteristics and de-emphasized racism a tad and emphasized other aspects.
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I think this is similar to fascist Italy. Unlike Germany, it is very difficult to identify what exactly Mussolini stood for, beside a very self serving version of "might make right". That would explain why collaboration with police is easy for them.
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I mean I think you have the long and short of it - they are not a white supremacist organization, so they shouldn't be treated as such. We do need better rhetoric on the left when describing the right - not every rightist is a fascist, neonazi, or white supremacist.
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weaponized shamelessness
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