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Lead Data Scientist, activist, survivor. Was actually assaulted by an actual right-wing terrorist. Opinions belong only to me, especially the bad ones. she/they

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    1. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

      Emily G Retweeted Noah Smith

      Yes, and we need to be less surprised by this and figure out better counter-strategies, because the old ones aren’t working and treating the Proud Boys like we treat Patriot Front is ineffective at best and counterproductive at worst.https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1050987197019475968 …

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      Noah SmithVerified account @Noahpinion
      Fascist gangs going multiracial now???? https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-young-men-of-color-are-joining-white-supremacist-groups …
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    2. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

      The Proud Boys exist solely to generate a narrative that the left is unstable, violent, and must be cracked down in. The Proud Boys have no real politics and very little ideology. The Nazis hate them. They have few convictions.

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    3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

      The Proud Boys are white supremacist only in the sense that they know white supremacy evokes a response from the left.

      11 replies 77 retweets 551 likes
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    4. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

      They don’t lose when they show up and get their asses kicked. That’s what they show up to do. They fucking loved PVD even though they got bloodied and wrecked.

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    5. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

      Even the doxing campaigns have been not very effective. They don’t hide, and they don’t seem to be impacted very much, unlike those distantly connected to Nazi groups.

      4 replies 32 retweets 340 likes
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    6. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

      Gavin McInnes, however, did have connections to Unite the Right, and offered full support to the event which saw two terrorists marching side by side, only withdrawing that support when it became clear it would blow back.

      4 replies 54 retweets 391 likes
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    7. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

      The most dangerous conclusion is that the Proud Boys are a creation of the GOP to set a narrative against the left. This could also be the most effective angle against them, because using them to expose the GOP would likely mean cutting off their support.

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    8. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

      Part of their strategy is to bring forward people of color, like Tiny. It makes the “you’re a white supremacist!” arguments fall flat. This is deliberate.

      7 replies 65 retweets 448 likes
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    9. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

      And while non-white people can perpetuate white supremacy, they rely on these academic arguments failing to generate mass outrage.

      3 replies 41 retweets 373 likes
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    10. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

      Internal Proud Boy chats have very little discussion by way of talk about race in the way that Nazi chats do. When you read neo-Nazi chats, they talk convoluted bullshit race theory for hours. Proud Boys don’t give a fuck, they just wanna beat the shit out of and trigger the libs

      6 replies 157 retweets 618 likes
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      Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

      The Proud Boys are white supremacist by action, but they have so far effectively dodged the associations by ideology that have been damaging to the Nazis. And the ease at which they’re dodging this surprises me.

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        2. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

          I don’t have a lot of great answers here but what is the most concerning is how close the PBs are to the police and to mainstream political bodies. That’s something the identitarian groups haven’t had quite as much.

          5 replies 91 retweets 530 likes
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        3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

          Emily G Retweeted Adam

          Anyhow, this is what Proud Boys do and get away with and we need a solution like right fucking now.https://twitter.com/leftkist/status/1050973870511939584?s=21 …

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          Adam @leftkist
          Here's video of the Proud Boy mob assault from tonight up close pic.twitter.com/frW09dcDHn
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        4. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

          Emily G Retweeted Emily G

          Reminder:https://twitter.com/emilygorcenski/status/1044261511043186688?s=21 …

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          Emily GVerified account @EmilyGorcenski
          Back in early-2017, Eli Mosley was exposed as Elliot Kline. He got mad, and in the Vibrant Diversity chats, solicited others to harass his exposer—Proud Boy leader Gavin McInnes. He literally shares it for “harassment purposes.” [cw: slurs] https://discordleaks.unicornriot.ninja/discord/view/741340?q=#msg … pic.twitter.com/IBFnySmJc2
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        5. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

          This is what the neo-Nazis think of the Proud Boys in their own chats.pic.twitter.com/qKDeo4ljb4

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        2. David‏ @gurdubu Oct 13
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          didnt u say nazis hate them like 3 tweets up

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        3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 13
          Replying to @gurdubu

          Both things are true

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        4. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 13
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @gurdubu

          The Nazis hate them for a variety of reasons, one of them being that the PBs skate past many of the same obstacles that some of the WN1.0 and 2.0 groups stumble badly on

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. David‏ @gurdubu Oct 13
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          r u talking abt the american nazi party

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        2. Merricat  🎃  🍁 (MK)‏ @some_qualia Oct 13
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          They took Umberto Eco's fashy characteristics and de-emphasized racism a tad and emphasized other aspects.

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 13
          Replying to @some_qualia

          Yup

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        1. Dominic‏ @Dominic4532 Oct 13
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          I think this is similar to fascist Italy. Unlike Germany, it is very difficult to identify what exactly Mussolini stood for, beside a very self serving version of "might make right". That would explain why collaboration with police is easy for them.

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        1. Deep Necrology‏ @puro_gringo Oct 12
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          I mean I think you have the long and short of it - they are not a white supremacist organization, so they shouldn't be treated as such. We do need better rhetoric on the left when describing the right - not every rightist is a fascist, neonazi, or white supremacist.

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        1. David Morgan‏ @damorgan Oct 12
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          weaponized shamelessness

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