Yes, and we need to be less surprised by this and figure out better counter-strategies, because the old ones aren’t working and treating the Proud Boys like we treat Patriot Front is ineffective at best and counterproductive at worst.https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1050987197019475968 …
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And while non-white people can perpetuate white supremacy, they rely on these academic arguments failing to generate mass outrage.
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Internal Proud Boy chats have very little discussion by way of talk about race in the way that Nazi chats do. When you read neo-Nazi chats, they talk convoluted bullshit race theory for hours. Proud Boys don’t give a fuck, they just wanna beat the shit out of and trigger the libs
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The Proud Boys are white supremacist by action, but they have so far effectively dodged the associations by ideology that have been damaging to the Nazis. And the ease at which they’re dodging this surprises me.
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I don’t have a lot of great answers here but what is the most concerning is how close the PBs are to the police and to mainstream political bodies. That’s something the identitarian groups haven’t had quite as much.
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Anyhow, this is what Proud Boys do and get away with and we need a solution like right fucking now.https://twitter.com/leftkist/status/1050973870511939584?s=21 …
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This is what the neo-Nazis think of the Proud Boys in their own chats.pic.twitter.com/qKDeo4ljb4
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Willingly or not, Tiny is being used. He’s a valuable pawn to Gibson, but he would be thrown under the bus in a moment if it served Gibson’s interests. How could Tiny not realize this?
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They never realize it but he won’t be thrown under the bus so long as he’s useful
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Nearly everybody on the right seems to have an expiration date when it comes to their supposed comrades standing by them. You can’t sustain loyalty on a foundation of hate.
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I’m ok with that. Maybe he’ll die of loneliness
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"western chauvinists" they call themselves. Their parents must be so ashamed.
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Ideologically vague; crystal clearly aggressive. All by design, and insidious.
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Really they are just thugs looking for power through violence and intimidation. Which is funny because they also say street gangs are a sign on social deterioration.
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You can still be a POC and still be anti Your Race, LOL this isn't even a remotely new phenomenon and they only sound stupid each time they trot their tokens out.
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This isn't particularly new–e.g. neo-Nazis & KKK periodically reach out to NoI. When NoI began in the '30s, they agitated against communism/labor unions & built support for Axis by playing up notion that ascendant Japanese imperialism would mean defeat of global white supremacy.
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This idea had some currency on the Left since 1905, when Lenin wrote enthusiastically about the defeat of tsarist Russia by the Japanese, but it's been suggested that Lenin later revised his thinking on this kind of pro-Japanese defeatism: https://www.marxists.org/archive/draper/1953/defeat/chap2.htm …
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