Yes, and we need to be less surprised by this and figure out better counter-strategies, because the old ones aren’t working and treating the Proud Boys like we treat Patriot Front is ineffective at best and counterproductive at worst.https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1050987197019475968 …
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Gavin McInnes, however, did have connections to Unite the Right, and offered full support to the event which saw two terrorists marching side by side, only withdrawing that support when it became clear it would blow back.
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The most dangerous conclusion is that the Proud Boys are a creation of the GOP to set a narrative against the left. This could also be the most effective angle against them, because using them to expose the GOP would likely mean cutting off their support.
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Part of their strategy is to bring forward people of color, like Tiny. It makes the “you’re a white supremacist!” arguments fall flat. This is deliberate.
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And while non-white people can perpetuate white supremacy, they rely on these academic arguments failing to generate mass outrage.
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Internal Proud Boy chats have very little discussion by way of talk about race in the way that Nazi chats do. When you read neo-Nazi chats, they talk convoluted bullshit race theory for hours. Proud Boys don’t give a fuck, they just wanna beat the shit out of and trigger the libs
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The Proud Boys are white supremacist by action, but they have so far effectively dodged the associations by ideology that have been damaging to the Nazis. And the ease at which they’re dodging this surprises me.
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I don’t have a lot of great answers here but what is the most concerning is how close the PBs are to the police and to mainstream political bodies. That’s something the identitarian groups haven’t had quite as much.
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Anyhow, this is what Proud Boys do and get away with and we need a solution like right fucking now.https://twitter.com/leftkist/status/1050973870511939584?s=21 …
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This is what the neo-Nazis think of the Proud Boys in their own chats.pic.twitter.com/qKDeo4ljb4
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It's because they are likely an Enterprise and are paid to get their ass kicked. So to them there is no win or lose..just money.
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Unfortunately, that holds as much water as Soros funded Kavanaugh protester theory. The grim reality is that these men aren’t motivated by greed. They have been indoctrinated into a shitty cult.
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I wouldn’t go so far as to say they’re all getting paychecks but a lot of them use it as a hustle for online fundraising. Also unlike the Soros thing this group actually has at least two wealthy benefactors in mcinnes and roger stone.
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I apologize for likening the idea about the funding of the proud boys to the garbage that's being pushed about the Kavanaugh protesters. I don't doubt that they are being compensated though I doubt that the people involved in the violence are doing it solely for a paycheck.
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No need for apology. I don’t think most are doing it for a money. Just think it’s good to acknowledge the amount of grifters involved in these right wing groups and definitely that the proud boys org is well funded.
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They don’t have anyone in their lives who doesn’t know they are a proud boy already. There’s nothing crypto about them.
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Is it because “Proud Boys” isn’t as recognized as Nazis, or because individuals aren’t being directly implicated in violent acts/proximity to Nazis?
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