Yes, and we need to be less surprised by this and figure out better counter-strategies, because the old ones aren’t working and treating the Proud Boys like we treat Patriot Front is ineffective at best and counterproductive at worst.https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1050987197019475968 …
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The Proud Boys are white supremacist only in the sense that they know white supremacy evokes a response from the left.
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They don’t lose when they show up and get their asses kicked. That’s what they show up to do. They fucking loved PVD even though they got bloodied and wrecked.
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Even the doxing campaigns have been not very effective. They don’t hide, and they don’t seem to be impacted very much, unlike those distantly connected to Nazi groups.
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Gavin McInnes, however, did have connections to Unite the Right, and offered full support to the event which saw two terrorists marching side by side, only withdrawing that support when it became clear it would blow back.
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The most dangerous conclusion is that the Proud Boys are a creation of the GOP to set a narrative against the left. This could also be the most effective angle against them, because using them to expose the GOP would likely mean cutting off their support.
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Part of their strategy is to bring forward people of color, like Tiny. It makes the “you’re a white supremacist!” arguments fall flat. This is deliberate.
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And while non-white people can perpetuate white supremacy, they rely on these academic arguments failing to generate mass outrage.
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Internal Proud Boy chats have very little discussion by way of talk about race in the way that Nazi chats do. When you read neo-Nazi chats, they talk convoluted bullshit race theory for hours. Proud Boys don’t give a fuck, they just wanna beat the shit out of and trigger the libs
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The Proud Boys are white supremacist by action, but they have so far effectively dodged the associations by ideology that have been damaging to the Nazis. And the ease at which they’re dodging this surprises me.
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I don’t have a lot of great answers here but what is the most concerning is how close the PBs are to the police and to mainstream political bodies. That’s something the identitarian groups haven’t had quite as much.
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Anyhow, this is what Proud Boys do and get away with and we need a solution like right fucking now.https://twitter.com/leftkist/status/1050973870511939584?s=21 …
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This is what the neo-Nazis think of the Proud Boys in their own chats.pic.twitter.com/qKDeo4ljb4
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Are they those hipster dudes who don't masturbate and believe sex is evil or something?
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I haven’t heard that before
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Apparently it's true: "The Proud Boys discourages its members from masturbating and watching pornography so as to motivate them to get "off the couch" and meet women" Wow. Imagine the variety of psychosexual neurosis of this group.
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Wow... Dear Freud...
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You level up in the organization by naming five breakfast cereals while being punched in the face. Seriously, that is one of their things.
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So they are 30 year olds with the mind of a 6 year old. Yeah I reqd about them. Minus the politics they look like a Baron Coen prank.
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I think it was started as a drunken dare and it just got away from them. Like Scientology.
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