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Lead Data Scientist, activist, survivor. Was actually assaulted by an actual right-wing terrorist. Opinions belong only to me, especially the bad ones. she/they

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    Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

    Emily G Retweeted Noah Smith

    Yes, and we need to be less surprised by this and figure out better counter-strategies, because the old ones aren’t working and treating the Proud Boys like we treat Patriot Front is ineffective at best and counterproductive at worst.https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1050987197019475968 …

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    Noah SmithVerified account @Noahpinion
    Fascist gangs going multiracial now???? https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-young-men-of-color-are-joining-white-supremacist-groups …
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    10:58 PM - 12 Oct 2018
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    • Nick Johnson Matthew "This Website Has Too Many Nazis" Kuhl🌹 Joe BCooper Julia Stoops BicycleHSVCommuter spooky existential angst or whatever perpetually nauseated and disappointed JS S
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      2. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        The Proud Boys exist solely to generate a narrative that the left is unstable, violent, and must be cracked down in. The Proud Boys have no real politics and very little ideology. The Nazis hate them. They have few convictions.

        21 replies 289 retweets 931 likes
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      3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        The Proud Boys are white supremacist only in the sense that they know white supremacy evokes a response from the left.

        11 replies 77 retweets 551 likes
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      4. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        They don’t lose when they show up and get their asses kicked. That’s what they show up to do. They fucking loved PVD even though they got bloodied and wrecked.

        3 replies 46 retweets 404 likes
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      5. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        Even the doxing campaigns have been not very effective. They don’t hide, and they don’t seem to be impacted very much, unlike those distantly connected to Nazi groups.

        4 replies 32 retweets 340 likes
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      6. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        Gavin McInnes, however, did have connections to Unite the Right, and offered full support to the event which saw two terrorists marching side by side, only withdrawing that support when it became clear it would blow back.

        4 replies 54 retweets 391 likes
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      7. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        The most dangerous conclusion is that the Proud Boys are a creation of the GOP to set a narrative against the left. This could also be the most effective angle against them, because using them to expose the GOP would likely mean cutting off their support.

        9 replies 182 retweets 626 likes
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      8. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        Part of their strategy is to bring forward people of color, like Tiny. It makes the “you’re a white supremacist!” arguments fall flat. This is deliberate.

        7 replies 65 retweets 448 likes
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      9. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        And while non-white people can perpetuate white supremacy, they rely on these academic arguments failing to generate mass outrage.

        3 replies 41 retweets 373 likes
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      10. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        Internal Proud Boy chats have very little discussion by way of talk about race in the way that Nazi chats do. When you read neo-Nazi chats, they talk convoluted bullshit race theory for hours. Proud Boys don’t give a fuck, they just wanna beat the shit out of and trigger the libs

        6 replies 157 retweets 618 likes
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      11. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        The Proud Boys are white supremacist by action, but they have so far effectively dodged the associations by ideology that have been damaging to the Nazis. And the ease at which they’re dodging this surprises me.

        6 replies 84 retweets 464 likes
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      12. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        I don’t have a lot of great answers here but what is the most concerning is how close the PBs are to the police and to mainstream political bodies. That’s something the identitarian groups haven’t had quite as much.

        5 replies 91 retweets 530 likes
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      13. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        Emily G Retweeted Adam

        Anyhow, this is what Proud Boys do and get away with and we need a solution like right fucking now.https://twitter.com/leftkist/status/1050973870511939584?s=21 …

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        Adam @leftkist
        Here's video of the Proud Boy mob assault from tonight up close pic.twitter.com/frW09dcDHn
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        13 replies 164 retweets 496 likes
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      14. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        Emily G Retweeted Emily G

        Reminder:https://twitter.com/emilygorcenski/status/1044261511043186688?s=21 …

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        Emily GVerified account @EmilyGorcenski
        Back in early-2017, Eli Mosley was exposed as Elliot Kline. He got mad, and in the Vibrant Diversity chats, solicited others to harass his exposer—Proud Boy leader Gavin McInnes. He literally shares it for “harassment purposes.” [cw: slurs] https://discordleaks.unicornriot.ninja/discord/view/741340?q=#msg … pic.twitter.com/IBFnySmJc2
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      15. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Oct 12

        This is what the neo-Nazis think of the Proud Boys in their own chats.pic.twitter.com/qKDeo4ljb4

        8 replies 43 retweets 229 likes
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      2. David Neiwert‏ @DavidNeiwert Oct 13
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @RedderMadderMan

        I think it would help if we understood that the animating dynamic is not white supremacism (though it is latent) but authoritarianism, which crosses all kinds of racial, ethnic and religious boundaries.

        2 replies 8 retweets 64 likes
      3. SPOOKY  👻 LUKEY‏ @bornwithatail_ Oct 14
        Replying to @DavidNeiwert @EmilyGorcenski @RedderMadderMan

        David, is an appropriate analogy of the PB’s to the initial incarnation of the American Legion (1918 - ?): as an authoritarian RW muscle squad, but not as explicitly racists as the Klan of the same time period?

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      4. SPOOKY  👻 LUKEY‏ @bornwithatail_ Oct 14
        Replying to @bornwithatail_ @DavidNeiwert and

        American Legionnaires involved in lynching Wobblies in Centralia, WAhttps://www.counterpunch.org/2014/01/03/the-american-legions-anti-socialist-roots/ …

        0 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Notnoworlater‏ @NotnoworlaterSD Oct 12
        Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

        This is so scary! Toxic masculinity maybe, the thread that connects and gives them a common foundation.

        1 reply 1 retweet 20 likes
      3. katherine‏ @ohthatkatherine Oct 12
        Replying to @NotnoworlaterSD @EmilyGorcenski

        their ringleader saw fight club as a shining inspiration for group male bonding

        1 reply 1 retweet 23 likes
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