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Lead Data Scientist, activist, survivor. Was actually assaulted by an actual right-wing terrorist. Opinions belong only to me, especially the bad ones. she/they

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    1. Eerie Skulls‏ @wwahammy Aug 22

      I know people get pissed about the ACLU defending bigots but they sorta have to once and a while to guarantee there's some legals precedent. Almost all the time they defend marginalized people instead but it doesn't get national news.

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    2. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 22
      Replying to @wwahammy

      They don’t, actually, most of the money they spend on bigots is on issues that are black letter law, and those bigots often jump the queue to get served, whereas marginalized people’s issues aren’t settled law and they aren’t represented until the matters are no longer relevant

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    3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 22
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @wwahammy

      Many ACLU-defending-bigots cases fail to set or even reinforce precedent, because few of the cases proceed to actual rulings. Bigots use the ACLU to get PIs and later drop the cases

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    4. Eerie Skulls‏ @wwahammy Aug 22
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

      Almost no cases get to actual rulings in any of these cases. Everyone settles.

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      Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 22
      Replying to @wwahammy

      This statement directly contradicts your claim that the ACLU needs to take on bigots’ cases to establish precedent

      9:48 PM - 22 Aug 2018
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        2. Eerie Skulls‏ @wwahammy Aug 22
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          There's a difference between the legal precedent and "we're going to tread carefully or we'll have to pay out a settlement again" precedent. They both value.

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        3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 22
          Replying to @wwahammy

          I don’t know what you’re arguing so I’ll make it clear: - I’m not talking about the ACLU defending marginalized people. I know they do and that’s good. - I’m disputing the claim that the ACLU needs to continue defending bigots to establish precedent. They don’t.

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        4. Eerie Skulls‏ @wwahammy Aug 22
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          I understand that, I disagree with your conclusion. I respect it, I just don't think it accurate. I'm open to learning more but to date, that's where I am.

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        2. Eerie Skulls‏ @wwahammy Aug 22
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          Sometimes you get legal precedent and more often you create a bit of fear in bad municipalities.

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        3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 22
          Replying to @wwahammy

          Well thanks for establishing that the terror attacks I narrowly survived were a necessary bit of fear in a bad municipality

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        4. Eerie Skulls‏ @wwahammy Aug 22
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          Ya, that was wildly out of line for the ACLU and you know I wasn't arguing about that.

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        5. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 22
          Replying to @wwahammy

          It wasn’t out of line. It was so in line with what they do that they applied a pre-canned formula with less than 72 hours preparation and succeeded

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        6. Eerie Skulls‏ @wwahammy Aug 22
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski

          I mean, it was morally out of line and shameful. They didn't investigate properly and that's on them.

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        7. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 22
          Replying to @wwahammy

          I don’t know how else to tell you that this is the pattern of behavior the ACLU takes with regards to bigots’ cases. They are almost always 1A cases with a pressing need for time that doesn’t allow for investigation, and they almost always jump the queue

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