I have gigabytes of video and audio and recorded phone calls and chat logs. I can point to a vast array of causal influences and factors. You have, at best, a distal secondary effect. At best.
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I can tell you about Jakub Zak and his activities in the Illinois area before he got arrested and charged with 8 counts of not having a FOID card. I can tell you how he recruited a friend, how his mom has a minivan and how he hung antisemitic posters outside a Jewish preschool
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I can tell you about Derrick Davis and how he’s got repressed gender issues and who his short term roommate was and how he doesn’t have a guest bed in his Mechanicsville home.
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I can give you extremely granular details about these fuckers and when I say that the effect you mention is a sliver compared to what they do say to say trust me, I know.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @kroati1
Again, you can list people all day. It is not evidence that they, and other participants, were not influenced by propaganda. It’s just a stupid claim. Stop.
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Replying to @EmilyEggbert @EmilyGorcenski
seriously, why do so many of you people try to assign one continuous organized narrative (that moves into conspiracy theory at times), and dismissing that way how the whole UTR &similar developed and evolved independently without outside influence, like Emily is saying
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Replying to @kroati1 @EmilyGorcenski
Because “like Emily is saying” is nonsense. There is no one on earth who is independent of cultural messaging and the right has been awash in directed online cultural messaging since Al Gore’s internet was opened to public usage.
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Replying to @EmilyEggbert @kroati1
I cannot explain to you how irrelevant your own argument makes the rest of your point. If that's the case, then it is no more relevant than the choice of math textbook or how much fast food advertising is present on highway billboards.
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Your own argument totally undermines your claim that whatever influence may have existed had any material impact in any measurable way. You have provided no mechanism, no channel, indeed you haven't even established the direction of the arrow of causation.
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All you're saying is, "people part of society are affected in some way by the things society does." Why weren't the antifascists affected by this? Why weren't the Nazis affected by the antifascist Russian propaganda? This makes no sense.
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Like, this is eighth grade metaphysics vs. my evidence which has so far held up in federal court.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @kroati1
lol. Your evidence is not evidence against the impact of propaganda.
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