I have knowledge of the investigations and lawsuits that you do not. I know where these people live, what kind of beer they like, whether they correct typos or not, who their exes are. I have sat through hours of court proceedings and meetings with law enforcement and so on.
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I can from memory recite the names of over a dozen leaders and their affiliations past and present. I know who drove what vehicles and when. I know where their families live and where they work.
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I have gigabytes of video and audio and recorded phone calls and chat logs. I can point to a vast array of causal influences and factors. You have, at best, a distal secondary effect. At best.
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I can tell you about Jakub Zak and his activities in the Illinois area before he got arrested and charged with 8 counts of not having a FOID card. I can tell you how he recruited a friend, how his mom has a minivan and how he hung antisemitic posters outside a Jewish preschool
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I can tell you about Derrick Davis and how he’s got repressed gender issues and who his short term roommate was and how he doesn’t have a guest bed in his Mechanicsville home.
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I can give you extremely granular details about these fuckers and when I say that the effect you mention is a sliver compared to what they do say to say trust me, I know.
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @kroati1
Again, you can list people all day. It is not evidence that they, and other participants, were not influenced by propaganda. It’s just a stupid claim. Stop.
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Replying to @EmilyEggbert @EmilyGorcenski
seriously, why do so many of you people try to assign one continuous organized narrative (that moves into conspiracy theory at times), and dismissing that way how the whole UTR &similar developed and evolved independently without outside influence, like Emily is saying
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they didnt get the ideas of grouping up, and marching in Charlottesville (and other places) because of propaganda. the whole thing was their own doing and organization "propaganda" of any sort might be in the background as a catalyst, but it never directed or caused any of it
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Replying to @kroati1 @EmilyGorcenski
If you take your brain out of the very narrow box of “this individual applied for a permit and this individual posted an advert” and get to *why* they were motivated to and *why* people responded in such numbers, you get to a clear propaganda campaign.
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You actually don't.
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