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Lead Data Scientist, activist, survivor. Was actually assaulted by an actual right-wing terrorist. Opinions belong only to me, especially the bad ones. she/they

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    1. animal from online‏ @loggedonanimal Aug 11
      Replying to @StephenHotHands @EmilyGorcenski

      "contributed" is a broad term. You think we didn't have Nazis before this? Racism? Maybe some Russian Nazi page existed to inflame tensions but we have the discord leaks, the doxxes from so many involved with this. Stop trying to shirk blame off our own awful culture for this.

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    2. Tenacious E‏ @EmilyEggbert Aug 13
      Replying to @loggedonanimal @StephenHotHands @EmilyGorcenski

      You are all so bizarre in your desperation to pretend Russian propaganda activity didn’t happen or has had no impact.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 13
      Replying to @EmilyEggbert @loggedonanimal @StephenHotHands

      There is a vast amount of evidence proving that these organizations grew organically and organized among each other without outside influence. There is no firm evidence that Russian influence had any material impact. Not a single receipt, meetup, message, or anything.

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    4. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 13
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @EmilyEggbert and

      Meanwhile, there is incredible amounts of evidence that these groups organized in the Marine Corps, for instance. And held meet ups in Tennessee bars, and pooled money to rent vans from Texas and Florida. There are *a million* messages of leaked private chats.

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    5. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 13
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @EmilyEggbert and

      These folks were extraordinarily careless, yet despite their carelessness there isn’t one single shred of evidence linking to Russia.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Tenacious E‏ @EmilyEggbert Aug 13
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @loggedonanimal @StephenHotHands

      You keep saying that, and it just isn’t true.

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    7. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 13
      Replying to @EmilyEggbert @loggedonanimal @StephenHotHands

      But it is. There is no material evidence, compared the the vast material evidence showing the contrary. At best, you have evidence that there was a social media element, but there is nothing to suggest that it had any effect on UTR attendance, which was driven privately.

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    8. Tenacious E‏ @EmilyEggbert Aug 13
      Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @loggedonanimal @StephenHotHands

      ‘Material’ is doing a lot of heavy lifting for you. Attitudes and activism are shaped and stirred by propaganda. Show me “material evidence” that Nazi propaganda or war or Soviet propaganda had any impact. It did tho.

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    9. animal from online‏ @loggedonanimal Aug 13
      Replying to @EmilyEggbert @EmilyGorcenski @StephenHotHands

      Show me the evidence that Russian propaganda had 1/1000th the influence of American billionaires on this topic?

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    10. Tenacious E‏ @EmilyEggbert Aug 13
      Replying to @loggedonanimal @EmilyGorcenski @StephenHotHands

      Show me evidence of how much Nazi propaganda influenced Germans in the 1930s.

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      Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 13
      Replying to @EmilyEggbert @loggedonanimal @StephenHotHands

      Your historical comparison is misguided. Russian impact, which exists, is more akin to Trumpism, whereas the alt-right’s street violence is more like the SA, which was ultimately so heavily disfavored that it led to the Night of the Long Knives.

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        2. Tenacious E‏ @EmilyEggbert Aug 13
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @loggedonanimal @StephenHotHands

          Thank you for the acknowledgement that Russian impact exists. If you want me to rephrase with night of the long knives, I’ll be happy to 1/2

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        3. Tenacious E‏ @EmilyEggbert Aug 13
          Replying to @EmilyEggbert @EmilyGorcenski and

          Show me evidence of how much Nazi propaganda influenced The Night of the Long Knives.

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        4. Emily G‏Verified account @EmilyGorcenski Aug 13
          Replying to @EmilyEggbert @loggedonanimal @StephenHotHands

          Ok but the equivalent to that would be trump murdering Jason kessler. That hasn’t happened yet.

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        5. Tenacious E‏ @EmilyEggbert Aug 13
          Replying to @EmilyGorcenski @loggedonanimal @StephenHotHands

          Trump and Kessler are each one person. Use whatever analogy you like. The fact is that it’s impossible to prove the impact of propaganda on any particular action. That does not mean that propaganda has no impact. I’ll rephrase again 1/2

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        6. Tenacious E‏ @EmilyEggbert Aug 13
          Replying to @EmilyEggbert @EmilyGorcenski and

          Show me evidence of how much any propaganda influenced anything ever. Is that better?

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