Russia had N O T H I N G to do with what happened in Charlottesville. I have seen the perpetrators with my own eyes, been inside their organizing circles, exposed them, and more. Not one trace of Russian involvement.https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1028375273757188097 …
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Meanwhile, there is incredible amounts of evidence that these groups organized in the Marine Corps, for instance. And held meet ups in Tennessee bars, and pooled money to rent vans from Texas and Florida. There are *a million* messages of leaked private chats.
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These folks were extraordinarily careless, yet despite their carelessness there isn’t one single shred of evidence linking to Russia.
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You keep saying that, and it just isn’t true.
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But it is. There is no material evidence, compared the the vast material evidence showing the contrary. At best, you have evidence that there was a social media element, but there is nothing to suggest that it had any effect on UTR attendance, which was driven privately.
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‘Material’ is doing a lot of heavy lifting for you. Attitudes and activism are shaped and stirred by propaganda. Show me “material evidence” that Nazi propaganda or war or Soviet propaganda had any impact. It did tho.
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Show me the evidence that Russian propaganda had 1/1000th the influence of American billionaires on this topic?
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Show me evidence of how much Nazi propaganda influenced Germans in the 1930s.
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Your historical comparison is misguided. Russian impact, which exists, is more akin to Trumpism, whereas the alt-right’s street violence is more like the SA, which was ultimately so heavily disfavored that it led to the Night of the Long Knives.
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And there’s a vast amount of evidence that they grew organically through internet connections and propaganda fostered by a global white supremacist movement of which the Russian government has been an active promoter.
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Where is that evidence? I've seen nothing beyond limp Facebook pages. The NRA has a closer link to Russian interference but nowhere close to being the cause of their blatantly fascist turn in recent decades. Russians didn't create Wayne LaPierre.
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So spend a little more time looking at RT and Sputnik and the geographic distribution of activity on Right Wing sites.
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RT and Sputnik, redrawing the lines of American discourse one unwatched segment at a time
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You really are working hard to minimize an active propaganda campaign. Why?
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