Ok so the web-sphere tech industry is talking about Microsoft and ICE and folks I need you to start really understanding that there is a wholw entire tech industry that barely even knows what Github is.
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My point in this is that we can celebrate tech solidarity organizing and should but we gotta be real real honest about scope.
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In direct action training you learn that the most effective direct actions have a few common elements: - a clear ask - a person or entity who can be held responsible - and a willingness to make the cost of noncompliance overly burdensome
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Given that Microsoft has a 15 year history of building tech for DHS, that has to factor into your solidarity action. What does a measurable outcome look like? What tools do you have to make the cost unbearable?
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Maybe you don't care about $100M maintenance contracts. If I'm being honest, I don't. I'm not gonna die on that hill. Ok, that's a good starting point.
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Is it to cease all contracting with DHS? If so, how do you reconcile that? Halt new development for them? Ok. What are the specifics?
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Footnote: I made my critique well aware of this. Possibly this comes from having a long military history in my family, but selling weapons systems to the Navy doesn't really worry me, while selling even a paper clip to ICE does.
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I don't intend to criticize you; actually I'm not targeting anyone in particular but more the general naivity of the developer community in these matters.
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You might be surprised who knows what about govt contracts in these Twitter streets.
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I don't think any given person would surprise me, but I would be shocked to discover a significant percentage of web-sphere developers having any context for this.
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I've spent the *vast* majority of my career doing government contracting and dealing with the contempt culture of shifting from that space to the contemporary Scrum/Agile world (and vice versa, the contempt flows both ways).
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@EricaJoy is saying is that a lot of Black developers work in the government contracting space, and may not necessarily be in the networks of folks who aren't Black. -
I am nevertheless unsure how this relates to my comment about the general naivity of SF/SV culture w/r.t. gov money, except to perhaps reinforce the comment that the underrepresentation of Black developers in the latter contributes even more to the *general* lack of insight.
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I think the objection is to the conflation of all the communities on Twitter with white supremacist SF/SV culture. But anyways, don't mean to shove words in Erica's mouth :)
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Their long history with the military is why I never really considered applying at MS. Yet, I saw an account with a freakin' Blue Lives Matter avatar being appalled about ICE today. ICE is so toxic they *might* dump them for some easy PR juice (and keeping mil)
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