I also need to get fucking real here with the Nuremberg stuff. This example gets used a lot lately. You know what we did to many of those "just following orders" Nazis? We killed them. Just like we killed hundreds of thousands of them on the battlefield.https://twitter.com/JamesMartinSJ/status/1008507728929738752 …
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So like, I'm not arguing against this comparison, per se. I'm saying we need to get real honest about where we're setting the baseline.
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Are these messages meant to say, "dear ICE agents, watch out because 'just following orders' was a path to execution" and if not why bring it up? And if it is, what path do we foresee that gets to that point?
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Replying to @EmilyGorcenski
I think you're overreaching. The Nuremberg comments (mine in particular) are meant to remind people who "just follow orders" to perpetrate war-crimes that they will not necessarily escape legal consequences. And this, my dear, is a war-crime, in the undeclared war on Hispanics.
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What part of present American politics looks like a cop facing consequences when qualified and sovereign immunity exist? Cops are literally executing Black men every week and getting away with it.
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The Nuremberg trials took almost two decades and a World War to happen. You think intimate justice will be swift? A war criminal in the Hague, from Serbia, wasn't apprehended for many years. I'm not saying it's even-handed. I'm saying it's not unavoidable. And I agree.
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The Nuremberg trials happened consequent to an entire regime being violently toppled by a multi-nation coalition so our baseline is pretty high. The Third Reich didn't have a sudden change of heart.
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