I also need to get fucking real here with the Nuremberg stuff. This example gets used a lot lately. You know what we did to many of those "just following orders" Nazis? We killed them. Just like we killed hundreds of thousands of them on the battlefield.https://twitter.com/JamesMartinSJ/status/1008507728929738752 …
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Qualified and sovereign immunity exist and are stronger than ever. Chelsea leaked hard evidence of actual war crimes and nothing happened. There is no framework for legal consequences for this behavior in America without dramatic upheaval of our systems.https://twitter.com/saavik2017/status/1008593509002235904?s=19 …
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"Watch out, copper, think about Nuremberg before we come for you with a legal system that fails to convict cops who are even caught on HD video straight up executing unarmed, compliant Black men. You'll rue the day!"
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The Nuremberg trials didn't happen because the Third Reich abruptly and willingly changed it's path. It took a brutal war to tear that regime down, so like if you wanna make Nuremberg comparisons to America we need to start talking about the bloody war that will precede it.
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*other nations* came in and put those Nazis on trial. Which other nations are gonna come put ICE agents on trial? Because that's what you're arguing when you make this comparison.
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Indeed. It would be more or less impossible for any of the people involved, except occasional junior agents, to face any consequences if brought to trial under American law. I would note that the same was true for the Nazis, under Nazi law, and for the same reasons.
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NRA armed MAGA’s could easily develop an appetite for physical war on “libtards” with an extra helping of propaganda for breakfast. I’m very concerned the left would be severely out-gunned. It’s not inconceivable that Canada and the EU would join the fight for democracy in the US
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Except many members of the EU are also falling into far-right fascism and violating human rights on their side too. So I'm not sure what will happen... (But I'm hella scared of the near future)
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generally not a fan of the state having the power to execute anyone, but life without parole seems reasonable.
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