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    1.  🌱 🏴 =w=.  🌵 🏴‍☠️‏ @EliteKonataFan Oct 18
      Replying to @LykD9 @epicgamerman2 and

      sounds more like you're catastrophising. humans lived not unlike this for thousands of years, it wasn't until the bronze age that civilization as we know it came along.

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    2. Lyk‏ @LykD9 Oct 18
      Replying to @EliteKonataFan @epicgamerman2 and

      Why do you think humans lived without natural egoism before the bronze age? I don't think that's true and it's not like we have written testimonies before civilization, but if you have good proof or even arguments for why that's the case I'll listen.

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    3. Lyk‏ @LykD9 Oct 18
      Replying to @LykD9 @EliteKonataFan and

      (especially since plenty of civilizations never reached the bronze age and still didn't live like that)

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    4.  🌱 🏴 =w=.  🌵 🏴‍☠️‏ @EliteKonataFan Oct 18
      Replying to @LykD9 @epicgamerman2 and

      well, if they were civilizations, then that's not what I was talking about

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    5. Lyk‏ @LykD9 Oct 18
      Replying to @EliteKonataFan @epicgamerman2 and

      Then what are you talking about and why do you think they lived like that? Knowledge of civilizations before the dawn of literacy is always very coveted, I'm just a classical philologist, not an archaeologist, but studies about that are part of my field too, so I'm interested.

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    6.  🌱 🏴 =w=.  🌵 🏴‍☠️‏ @EliteKonataFan Oct 18
      Replying to @LykD9 @epicgamerman2 and

      the "uncivilized". until fairly recently most people lived outside of civilization. there are still select groups of such in the world today (uncontacted tribes in the Amazon and Indian ocean, certain groups in Africa, etc). there are also groups who were recently integrated into

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    7.  🌱 🏴 =w=.  🌵 🏴‍☠️‏ @EliteKonataFan Oct 18
      Replying to @EliteKonataFan @LykD9 and

      civilization whose ways of life are still attested to in oral memory and anthropological investigations

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    8.  🌱 🏴 =w=.  🌵 🏴‍☠️‏ @EliteKonataFan Oct 18
      Replying to @EliteKonataFan @LykD9 and

      some were planters, others were hunter gatherers, all of them had a higher quality of life than your average city-dwelling person. this is not controversial.

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    9. Lyk‏ @LykD9 Oct 18
      Replying to @EliteKonataFan @epicgamerman2 and

      I'd disagree. Not only were their life-spans shorter, their living conditions harsher and their civilizations quite monstrous in many examples, they also most definitely didn't have a higher quality of life. Take the Australian natives for example.pic.twitter.com/Ulv6SQrFbp

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    10. Lyk‏ @LykD9 Oct 18
      Replying to @LykD9 @EliteKonataFan and

      How would you define quality of life, when food, life-expectancy, human rights, safety and many other things are either scarce or non-existent? Especially since the rule of the strong usually applies, which leads to women having a subservient role at best in nearly all cases.

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       🌱 🏴 =w=.  🌵 🏴‍☠️‏ @EliteKonataFan Oct 18
      Replying to @LykD9 @epicgamerman2 and

      many of those atrocities are common in civilization too, take the ongoing child abuse scandal in the catholic church, or indeed the practice of circumcision in other religious communites

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        2. Lyk‏ @LykD9 Oct 18
          Replying to @EliteKonataFan @epicgamerman2 and

          Indeed, but you're making the case that humanity used to be different. Different enough that people would be both self-sufficient, without hierarchies and still pacifistic, despite no state to enforce it.

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        3.  🌱 🏴 =w=.  🌵 🏴‍☠️‏ @EliteKonataFan Oct 18
          Replying to @LykD9 @epicgamerman2 and

          my previous point: "we do our tasks as they need doing. nobody orders anyone to do something, once they are aware that it needs doing they either do it or seek someone out with the experience to do so." is a concept called mutual aid, it's well-attested to

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        4.  🌱 🏴 =w=.  🌵 🏴‍☠️‏ @EliteKonataFan Oct 18
          Replying to @EliteKonataFan @LykD9 and

          I don't see how we, humans with the benefit of hindsight, couldn't recognise that we have unselfish tendencies as well as selfish ones, and put these towards productive ends

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        5. Lyk‏ @LykD9 Oct 18
          Replying to @EliteKonataFan @epicgamerman2 and

          Because active thinking isn't the standard for humanity and neither is great morality. If everybody were like you, maybe it would work, but for that you'd have to kill off the vast majority of humanity.

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        6.  🌱 🏴 =w=.  🌵 🏴‍☠️‏ @EliteKonataFan Oct 18
          Replying to @LykD9 @epicgamerman2 and

          how convenient, with the climate warming up, the vast majority of humanity may be in for a very wet, very hot shock within my lifetime.

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        7. Lyk‏ @LykD9 Oct 18
          Replying to @EliteKonataFan @epicgamerman2 and

          Scientists speak of climate change instead of warming nowadays for a reason, not every place just gets higher. In fact, the hinterlands of China which are currently basically a barren wasteland will get a lot more rain due to climate change eventually.

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        8.  🌱 🏴 =w=.  🌵 🏴‍☠️‏ @EliteKonataFan Oct 18
          Replying to @LykD9 @epicgamerman2 and

          mmm, but on top of climate change, with the oil supplies drying up and getting harder to find, it may be difficult for us to survive. I know that unless things change very very quickly (which they won't) the place I live will be underwater before my 40th birthday.

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        9. Lyk‏ @LykD9 Oct 18
          Replying to @EliteKonataFan @epicgamerman2 and

          We constantly find new oil and recently a German firm has found a new way to recycle plastic back into oil (only certain plastics for now). Most of the panic there is to drive the price up for now. Climate change isn't quite that bad either, where do you live?

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