Remind us how many other countries trade on WTO terms only? Tell us how much better of we'd be than if we remained. Impact? Worse or better than WWII? How much sacrifice do we need to get back the sovereignty we already have?
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166 w side deals available; WW2! Any idea what happened in ww2 or any other war?You lot can keep retweeting crapola and coming out with the scare stories your teachers have filled you up with as much as you like but that kind of hyperbole just makes you look like school children
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Replying to @DRDunderdale @botcotu and
It was Brexit party candidate Ann Widdecombe that compared the sacrifice to WWII. Brexit party candidate Lucy Harris who suggested a 30 year economic impact. I not only studied WWII but taught it. Lots of late weimar vibes currently.
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Well you know what they say about teachers. AW I believe was suggesting that having survived and flourished after serious sacrifices getting back our independence is going to be relatively easy. No one knows exactly all the ramifications, it's a punt but one we can win..
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A punt with other people's lives? A bait and switch from sunlit uplands to WWII sacrifice. Easy deals to no deal. All this without a new mandate for the significant change. Truly disgusting.
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Staying in the EU would have been a more dangerous punt in my view, instead of getting hysterical about what might happen accept the same democratic choice leavers had to accept re wanting to leave the EEC in '75. We were lied to then, it did mutate into a superstate, the EU..
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Replying to @DRDunderdale @botcotu and
We clearly have a fundamentally different view of the EU. The areas that concern me would be better dealt from within. I don't like the thought of leaving but supported a planned withdrawal with sufficient transition. I'm going to leave it there.
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Fair enough but any 'managed transition' is going to be on their terms, better to bite the bullet and do what we were told we were voting to do, leave, agree to pay the minimum commitments possible because we will likely have to save them from themselves again one day, for free..
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When they inevitably start fighting over which country really runs the EU, hint it’s not going to be a mild mannered country or a piece of cake win. An economic union is workable but a political union of equal countries is literally and figuratively only for the birds that flock
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Though we fundamentally disagree I've appreciated this debate. Compared to the Brexit means Brexit and you lost get over it brigade it's been refreshing. I sadly won't live long enough for this to be history but at least in the abstract it's fascinating. You've added to that.
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Yes it’s been nice to meet a remainer who doesn’t absolutely know that he is right. I believe that more leavers than remainers would accept that they don’t know and that it’s a punt due to our government’s systematic brainwashing but follow me back if you’re truly open minded..
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