Making it seem impossibly difficult to change has been the EU’s job all along, that they were aided and abetted by our own government brings shame on both but not equally. Our gov knows that over 160 govs trade more successfully than us on WTO terms but it lied to us about that.
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Yes because of them faffing about for 3 years with the aim of weaseling out of independence. If we'd been on WTO for 3 years now we'd be booming like most of the world's other 166 countries on WTO are - but our government would rather fuck things up than upset their EU masters..
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Remind us how many other countries trade on WTO terms only? Tell us how much better of we'd be than if we remained. Impact? Worse or better than WWII? How much sacrifice do we need to get back the sovereignty we already have?
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166 w side deals available; WW2! Any idea what happened in ww2 or any other war?You lot can keep retweeting crapola and coming out with the scare stories your teachers have filled you up with as much as you like but that kind of hyperbole just makes you look like school children
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It was Brexit party candidate Ann Widdecombe that compared the sacrifice to WWII. Brexit party candidate Lucy Harris who suggested a 30 year economic impact. I not only studied WWII but taught it. Lots of late weimar vibes currently.
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Well you know what they say about teachers. AW I believe was suggesting that having survived and flourished after serious sacrifices getting back our independence is going to be relatively easy. No one knows exactly all the ramifications, it's a punt but one we can win..
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A punt with other people's lives? A bait and switch from sunlit uplands to WWII sacrifice. Easy deals to no deal. All this without a new mandate for the significant change. Truly disgusting.
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Staying in the EU would have been a more dangerous punt in my view, instead of getting hysterical about what might happen accept the same democratic choice leavers had to accept re wanting to leave the EEC in '75. We were lied to then, it did mutate into a superstate, the EU..
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We clearly have a fundamentally different view of the EU. The areas that concern me would be better dealt from within. I don't like the thought of leaving but supported a planned withdrawal with sufficient transition. I'm going to leave it there.
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Fair enough but any 'managed transition' is going to be on their terms, better to bite the bullet and do what we were told we were voting to do, leave, agree to pay the minimum commitments possible because we will likely have to save them from themselves again one day, for free..
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