But now that we do have definitions, would you consider it ideal for people to still be making things up as they go?
And, you can certainly count on there being new, additional, proofs of Noise (and by extension of WireGuard). But sure, if your beef was NDSS accepting papers that didn't provide a proof (even though a proof came a bit after), okay then.
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That’s my beef, as laid out in the tweet that started this whole thing. Also I’m surprised that Trevor didn’t find a way to solve this problem early on.
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That's the point you keep missing. It's *NOT* a "problem". It's a feature, not a bug, to do confirmation on the transport layer. Please read this post: https://lists.zx2c4.com/pipermail/wireguard/2018-January/002333.html … It allows us to have a DH-only protocol with only two non-droppable messages.
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