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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky May 10

    Google Duplex and its clones and successors will make phone calls between strangers almost impossible. Or between friends, too, if caller ID spoofing is not solved.

    2:13 AM - 10 May 2018
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      1. Seph‏ @josephgentle May 10
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        I sense phone based capchas in our future. "To speak to a representative, please state whether or not this audio clip mentions any street signs"

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      2. Andre Infante‏ @AndreTI May 10
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Not looking forward to a few years of scam callers pretending to be loved ones in trouble.

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      3. Andre Infante‏ @AndreTI May 10
        Replying to @AndreTI @ESYudkowsky

        To make things even better, if they keep you on the line long enough to get a sample of your voice to fit a model to, they can do the same thing to *your* friends and family.

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      2. Derek‏ @PereGrimmer May 10
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        And surely there will be some bad consequences, too.

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      2. Richard Ngo‏ @RichardMCNgo May 10
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Big companies won't lie about being bots though. And it'll be a while before spammers will be able to implement anything nearly as convincing, especially if people switch to video calls for authenticity.

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      3. Corey Yanofsky truly and sincerely‏ @Corey_Yanofsky May 10
        Replying to @RichardMCNgo @ESYudkowsky

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepfake 

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      4. Richard Ngo‏ @RichardMCNgo May 10
        Replying to @Corey_Yanofsky @ESYudkowsky

        Oh, good point, I'd forgotten about that. So video won't help much.. I still think convincingly faking conversations is much harder to scale to new topics than deepfake is to scale to new faces.

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      5. Corey Yanofsky truly and sincerely‏ @Corey_Yanofsky May 10
        Replying to @RichardMCNgo @ESYudkowsky

        people might end up implementing passphrase schemes like spies

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      1. Dave Lindbergh‏ @DaveLindbergh May 11
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Spoofing a specific person is bad. But stranger or robot, why should I care? They're both entities I don't know. I care only if/when the interaction progresses to the point where a stranger becomes an acquaintance. (TLDR: Lying is bad; vagueness isn't.)

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      1. Evan Story‏ @estory1 May 10
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        What changes besides automation effects? AI & humans can both: * Impersonate a known human. * Make fraudulent statements. * Be (un)pleasant. * Spoof, proxy, spam, etc.. You note an old problem: lack of strong caller identification. But another is truly ancient: people lie.

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      1. Neek Mercader‏ @neekmercader May 10
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        More like, "...Cool, my AI assistant will call your AI assistant."

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      1. SIGHODL‏ @AssafLavie May 10
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Not for smaller languages, like Hebrew. (smaller meaning fewer speakers). Hebrew TTS is still terrible. And Israeli customer service workers do *not* adhere to any grammatical rules, phone etiquette or limit themselves to interacting with just one customer at a time.

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      1. zmeysa‏ @zmeysa May 10
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        I was hoping it could work as a secretary to filter out spammers who are the majority of incoming calls already

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      1. Worst Metathreat to Complex Civilization‏ @dpwiz May 10
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        Good riddance.

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      2. Max Schumacher‏ @mxschumacher May 10
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        do people still talk on the phone?

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