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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Apr 26

    I wish people more often quoted prices for minor requests. My brain lives in terror of spending Unknown Amounts of Social Capital, and I far prefer to choose whether to spend a known quantity of money.

    2:50 PM - 26 Apr 2018
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    • Landon Ponek It's a Mia ∃𝑋[∅∈𝑋∧∀𝑦(𝑦∈𝑋⇒𝑦∪{𝑦}∈𝑋)] Finn Wilcox Hallie's Dead 🎃 Autochthon🐸 Daniel Houck Petr Misan prior probability
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      1. Alicorn‏ @luminousalicorn Apr 26
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        I'll start doing this around you if you give me fifty bucks.

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      2.  🤖‏ @ramriot Apr 26
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        How exactly does one make change from an immortal soul? Asking for a friend who needs a minor miracle.

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      3. Michael Handy‏ @Michaeljhandy Apr 26
        Replying to @ramriot @ESYudkowsky

        simple, Horcrux the soul into the denomination of your choice, and keep the remainder.

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      1. Turd Ferguson‏ @reeeeeeeeeally Apr 26
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        I’m not sure enough people could quantify things in the way you’d like. So you might just end up with wildly inaccurate prices, some cognitively overburdened acquaintances, and, I think, no seriously foreseeable reduction in social capital expenditure.

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      2. Daniel Kaufman‏ @Yozarian22 Apr 26
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        While in principle I think that economic and social capital are tradable, I actually think the boundary between them is a useful one. 1/

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      3. Daniel Kaufman‏ @Yozarian22 Apr 26
        Replying to @Yozarian22 @ESYudkowsky

        I see it as a method for resolving prisoner's dilemmas between friends. Basically, you each agree to turn off the economic evaluator module in your brain for social interactions 2/

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      1. River Fishing Heraclitus‏ @wamyc Apr 27
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        But you'll still end up paying unknown social Capitol costs even if money is exchanged. (Most) People can't separate those things. Money can actually make the social costs *more*

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      2. Hallie's Dead  🎃‏ @halsted May 7
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Working theory: traditional norms of politeness encoded these amounts better and, with the reexamination of flawed moral frameworks that was the 20th century, we threw out a lot of invisible price tags without throwing out the things to which they were attached.

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      3. Aaron Docherty‏ @dochertyaaron May 8
        Replying to @halsted @ESYudkowsky

        "traditional norms of politeness encoded these amounts better" - Cialdini wrote about the principal of reciprocity and showed gift-giving tendencies were exploitable. It's hard to have heuristics add up to optimal.

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      2. Adam Brumage‏ @ASciFiLawyer Apr 26
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Careful, Facebook is listening.

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      1. Swaraj Banerjee‏ @swarajban May 3
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        This is a good read by @vgr about why people don't ask for money for certain thingshttps://www.ribbonfarm.com/2014/08/12/the-economics-of-pricelessness/ …

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      1. libertarianism 🛡️‏ @libertarianismX Apr 30
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        That reminds me a bit of Atlas Shrugged, in Galt's Gulch people do exactly that they charge small amounts of money for small favors...

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      1. Petr Misan‏ @petrmisan Apr 29
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Wonder if using some form of http://Earn.com  helps ? @earndotcom

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      1. unsong fan account‏ @verditude Apr 26
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        The trouble is that asking for a taboo trades/standard transactions conversion factor itself proposes a taboo trade

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