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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    1. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Mar 29

      https://xkcd.com/1968/  is #TheLastDerail in a nutshell. I can try to imagine hypotheses, but I'm not sure why Randall Monroe thinks this a clever thing to say. If I wrote a fictional character saying this straight out, I'd be accused of writing a 2D straw character.

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      Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Mar 29

      "Some people worry about the deaths of billions, the destruction of humankind, the waste of the cosmic endowment and the loss of unimaginably vast and glorious intergalactic civilizations that would've been. Lol! I worry about something else which I think is MUCH higher-status."

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        2. David Fendrich‏ @fnedrik Mar 30
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          I wondered why he couldn't worry about two things.

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        3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Mar 30
          Replying to @fnedrik

          Because the point is to put down people who worry about the second thing. I can imagine theories of 2D villainous reasons to do this, like pushing yourself up by putting down others. If there's a 3D reason, I don't know it.

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        4. Rob Alderman‏ @rob4lderman Mar 30
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky @fnedrik

          I don’t read it that way. I think he’s fully on your side in stressing the importance of AI risk. Diff is, AGI is some unknown years out w possibly big unseen hurdles ahead. Dimmer AIs controlling swarms of weaponized drones is almost already upon us, and it’s kind of a big deal

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        5. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Mar 30
          Replying to @rob4lderman @fnedrik

          Stressing risks unrelated to AGI and derailing AGI conversations by crying "AI risk!" ain't on my side. Drones are as unrelated to AGI as assault rifles are to drones. Derailing a drone conversation with "Let's talk about currently deadly machines!" wouldn't be on Monroe's side.

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        6. Rob Alderman‏ @rob4lderman Mar 30
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky @fnedrik

          What? It’s all AI risk. AI swarms are much different than just drones. And the comparisons to rifles? Geez. Nobody is trying to derail your concerns about AGI dude

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        7. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Mar 30
          Replying to @rob4lderman @fnedrik

          It's all "machine risk". No, better yet, it's all "objects made of matter risk". Why worry about drone thingies when bullet thingies are higher-status and less nerdy?

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        8. Rob Alderman‏ @rob4lderman Mar 30
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky @fnedrik

          I’m in fact a card-carrying nerd myself, I’m not one to shy away from neediness. But if you really think that weaponized drone swarms coordinated by machines processing massive amounts of information in real time doesn’t fall under “AI risk”.... well then that’s what you think

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        9. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Mar 30
          Replying to @rob4lderman @fnedrik

          Then I'm uninterested in AI risk. I specialize in the mostly unrelated issues of AGI. Of course they're both made of computers, and likewise computers and assault rifles are both made of matter; but AI and AGI and assault rifles all three have few problems or solutions in common.

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        2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 29
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          I mean, from THIS perspective it makes sense. Given that the AI alignment problem probably does not have a solution.pic.twitter.com/u0fyATNOGs

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 29
          Replying to @Plinz @ESYudkowsky

          Unfortunately, worrying more about Trump using drone strikes than about existential risk is an important part of normie signaling

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        4. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Mar 29
          Replying to @Plinz

          Is it just me or would this not have been part of normie signaling in 1950? Or even 1990?

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        5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Mar 29
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          Signaling concern about nuclear armageddon was mainstream in 1980, and ecologic armageddon acceptable in 1990. Millennials need something different than boomers and GenX to worry about, and AI is too male and nerdy.

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        6. Victor Levoso‏ @VictorLevoso Mar 31
          Replying to @Plinz @ESYudkowsky

          People involved in #TheLastDerrail seems convinced that ai is just the new thing to be signalled and their concerns are the low status ones I think that the new high status thing is saying that people are just signalling concern like the other times and the real problem is x

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        7. Victor Levoso‏ @VictorLevoso Mar 31
          Replying to @VictorLevoso @Plinz @ESYudkowsky

          We didn't die in a nuclear apocalipse ,and ecological concers are too long term So now being concerned for posible apocaliptic scenarios is no longer high status Worrying about evil corporations doing whatever is the new trendy thing Or anything that involves people being evil.

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        2. Daniel Houck‏ @daniel_houck Mar 30
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          If “something else” seems to be at least a civilization-ending threat, and will predictably occur before AGI, this makes sense. If autonomous armies are a bad enough threat that people can’t study AI, you don’t need to worry about alignment quite yet.

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        3. Daniel Houck‏ @daniel_houck Mar 30
          Replying to @daniel_houck @ESYudkowsky

          It is implausible it’ll get that bad, but if you disagree on that then the priorities make sense.

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        1. David M. Levinson‏ @trnsprtst Mar 29
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          Maybe it’s saying there are existential risks before self aware AI that aren’t getting sufficient attention as people bring distant dangers near.

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        1. Victor Levoso‏ @VictorLevoso Mar 31
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          Maybe he thinks that the killer robots will end civilization before we reach point b.

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        1. Phantom Type  👻‏ @PLT_cheater Mar 30
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

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          I wonder if this ties in:https://twitter.com/PLT_cheater/status/967516133610975233 …

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          Guys I struck the mother of conspiracy theories: Big Government perpetuated the misnomer "tin foil" so that tin foil hats don't work. It is, in fact, aluminium foil. You actually want foil made of *real* tin,
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