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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Mar 19

    If there are any economists out there who aren't already nervous and confused about the Great Filter / Fermi Paradox, let me put it this way: You can look up at the night sky and see untouched septillion-dollar bills lying around.

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      2. Randall J. Ellis‏ @RandallJEllis Mar 19
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Because of asteroid mining? What is/are the particular industry/industries worth septillions of dollars?

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      3. Tamzin Blake ⚧‏ @tamzinblake Mar 19
        Replying to @RandallJEllis @ESYudkowsky

        Entire stars / planets / ecosystems / black holes

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      4. Randall J. Ellis‏ @RandallJEllis Mar 19
        Replying to @tamzinblake @ESYudkowsky

        Extracting resources from them? What is the money maker?

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      5. Tamzin Blake ⚧‏ @tamzinblake Mar 19
        Replying to @RandallJEllis @ESYudkowsky

        Whatever you think might be worth money on Earth, all put together, as a start. Earth is an example of a planet. Other planets not having been utilized is a sign that something is up. And we know of even better uses we can put to stars rather than letting them burn away.

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      6. Randall J. Ellis‏ @RandallJEllis Mar 19
        Replying to @tamzinblake @ESYudkowsky

        I appreciate the explanation. Could you elaborate and/or give me relevant references?

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      7. Tamzin Blake ⚧‏ @tamzinblake Mar 19
        Replying to @RandallJEllis @ESYudkowsky

        Great filter: https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Great_Filter … fermi paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox … dyson spheres: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere …

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      8. Randall J. Ellis‏ @RandallJEllis Mar 19
        Replying to @tamzinblake @ESYudkowsky

        Thanks, but I meant references about future space industries worth septillions of dollars

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      1. Noah Topper‏ @NoahTopper Mar 19
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Petition to rename the Fermi Paradox to the Extremely Inefficient Market Hypothesis.

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      1. phileas dogg‏ @drehmer Mar 19
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        How many paperclips could we make with all that?

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      1. Lee Pavelich‏ @leepavelich Mar 19
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Are you advocating open borders with the Andromedans?

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      2. Andrew Follett‏Verified account @AndrewCFollett Mar 19
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Not necessarily. We don't yet have the telescopes capable of studying pulsars that an alien civilization would logically start Dysoning up first. Pulsars are fairly hard to study, but emit a lot of energy along constant vectors. Worthwhile explanationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX6WdVFWzqs …

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      3. Skipped Tick‏ @Skip_tick Mar 19
        Replying to @AndrewCFollett @ESYudkowsky

        This implies they only manage what they need. Surely instead they would send almost costless self replicating probes to lay claim to everything they could. Which would be everything.

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      4. Andrew Follett‏Verified account @AndrewCFollett Mar 19
        Replying to @Skip_tick @ESYudkowsky

        Fair point, but if they'd done we probs wouldn't exist bc anthropic principle. We're fairly confident they haven't sent out the Von Neumans bc we can see the stars. To me, it seems more likely we're probably missing something (or a lot).

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      5. David Shipley‏ @DavidCShipley Mar 21
        Replying to @AndrewCFollett @Skip_tick @ESYudkowsky

        Given the vast upside and existential downside why wouldn’t you use VNPs to capture your entire Hubble Volume as quickly as possible?

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      2. Ben Schulz‏ @Bschulz5 Mar 19
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Or you can be happy at the golden silence in that we may have already passed the great filter.

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      3. Raphaël‏ @sunset_ship Mar 19
        Replying to @Bschulz5 @ESYudkowsky

        That's very unlikelyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aspMV6ERqpo …

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      2. Eric Falkenstein‏ @egfalken Mar 19
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        I'm skeptical as long as we can't replicate abiogenesis. Lots of trends don't extrapolate, and just as all prior origin of life stories have foundered (since Erasmus Darwin), future stories probably just as flawed.

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      3. outside-ities‏ @outsideities Mar 19
        Replying to @egfalken @ESYudkowsky

        If that’s the case then it simply means that abiogenesis is the great filter. Or at least a great filter.

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