There have been many great female scientists, novelists, artists, etc. But which female philosophers should replace Plato, Aristotle, Erasmus, Descartes, Hobbes, Locke, Hume, Kant, Mill, Nietzsche, Habermas, or Singer? Serious suggestions welcome.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2018/03/14/oxford-university-set-feminise-curriculum-requesting-inclusion/ …
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That’s a great point. To the extent plato is important it’s in the history of philosophy rather than his correctness. Although, no-one I’ve read other than Plato seems to have addressed what the best musical modes are for society.
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In The Republic the Dorian mode was preferred so he would have appreciated Miles Davis' ’So What’.
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The Doors did a lot of work in the Dorian too. Coming back to your point
@ESYudkowsky, would it be a good way to characterize things that what we call ‘Philosophy’ as a discipline is much more conflated with it’s own history than in other disciplines (e.g physics)? -
Art and literature have sometimes been likewise conflated with their own history. I see it as a curse of places where objective accomplishment is hard for many to verify and a natural tendency to ancestor-worship and an illusion of scholarship allocates prestige, a la religion.
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It's not that the true accomplishments as they exist beyond human evaluation are somehow more tied to history. It's just that there's a natural kind of fake scholarship and lauding that humans do, which in its unrestrained form is classic religion.
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Objective verification of talent is a different phenomenon, trying to pump against the natural high-entropy state. This pumping force is triumphant in math, weaker in science, weaker yet in literature, and absent in religion or continental philosophy.
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Ok, only now getting that you’re focussing on talent verification. Do you think that verification of talent is a useful metric when thinking about what to learn (particularly for ideas that have been around a long time)?
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I'm just framing it that way because of the original question about great female philosophers. If you can't verify greatness then it's little wonder if men win the status game before 1950.
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