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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    1. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson Feb 23

      Robin Hanson Retweeted Marginal Revolution

      Contra Cowen, competency-based & on-line school seem to me to offer worse signals of future job performance, and so would not beat existing school plans in an open fair competition. https://www.overcomingbias.com/2018/02/signal-inertia.html …https://twitter.com/MargRev/status/966727303693615104 …

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      College average is over http://dlvr.it/QHQGHb 
      7 replies 4 retweets 19 likes
    2. tylercowen‏Verified account @tylercowen Feb 23
      Replying to @robinhanson

      That is not what I claim, though, only that such forms will dominate *if* Caplanian signaling is the dominant motive...

      3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    3. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson Feb 23
      Replying to @tylercowen

      But I don't see @bryan_caplan as saying school is mainly about signaling learning. He says school signals smarts, care, & conformity. Competency-based & online learning don't obviously show those features better.

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    4. tylercowen‏Verified account @tylercowen Feb 23
      Replying to @robinhanson @bryan_caplan

      BC wants to have it both ways. The more complex the signaling story gets, the harder it is to do it another way, and we are back to a kind of semi-efficiency.

      4 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
    5. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Feb 23
      Replying to @tylercowen @robinhanson @bryan_caplan

      Bryan's primary thesis is "School is not forming human capital and groups with more school won't do collectively better." You can't refute that by saying "School is socially efficient signaling, there's no simple way for a society to allow stronger signals at lower cost."

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    6. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Feb 23
      Replying to @ESYudkowsky @tylercowen and

      That is: Even if signaling future job performance is a social good (which it would be at zero cost), it's not the same social good as human capital formation (which is supposed to be a very large social good allowing your country to create a higher grade of stuff and services).

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    7. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Feb 23
      Replying to @ESYudkowsky @tylercowen and

      It's also possible for signaling to burn most of the gains from trade in a negative-sum way. If the trade surplus from employment is $100,000 and the use to the employer of a strong signal is $10,000, then the future employee is still motivated to burn $90k to send this signal.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Feb 23
      Replying to @ESYudkowsky @tylercowen and

      You similarly can't refute this thesis about negative-sum-ness by saying "There's no individually better way to signal competence" or even "It'd be hard to build a social system that more effectively signaled competence." Nash equilibria can have negative-sum components too.

      11:32 AM - 23 Feb 2018
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