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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    1. Jeff Lonsdale‏ @JeffLonsdale Feb 6

      Listening to the Harris & Yudkowsky podcast on AI. Realized that Yudkowsky likely simply paid his test subjects more than the $10 & $20 prize to let him out of the box.

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    2. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Feb 7
      Replying to @JeffLonsdale

      I'm on record as saying that this in particular didn't happen, and I said on the podcast that there wasn't a clever trick and I just did it the hard way.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Matt Sperling‏ @sickofit Feb 7
      Replying to @ESYudkowsky @JeffLonsdale

      I've always wanted to ask whether the parameters allowed you to credibly claim abilities of an AGI or not, e.g. offer cure for cancer.

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      Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Feb 7
      Replying to @sickofit @JeffLonsdale

      In real life, a superintelligence certainly has the *capability*, it's trustworthiness that's in doubt.

      12:17 PM - 7 Feb 2018
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        2. Matt Sperling‏ @sickofit Feb 7
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky @JeffLonsdale

          Right, but in the experiment if they said "prove it" I was wondering whether proof was role played or not

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        3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky Feb 7
          Replying to @sickofit @JeffLonsdale

          In real life if you tell a superintelligence "prove you can cure cancer" then it has probably just escaped the box (though the game rules disallow that conclusion), but if not, it can certainly prove it!

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        4. Jeff Lonsdale‏ @JeffLonsdale Feb 7
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky @sickofit

          No tricks involve both no payments as well as “when you gave me access to this you effectively let me out” scenarios? Why not publish various exchanges at this point?

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        5. Matt Sperling‏ @sickofit Feb 7
          Replying to @JeffLonsdale @ESYudkowsky

          1) preserve future experiments, 2) replicate the feeling of knowing it would happen but not knowing how, 3) avoiding the familiarity discount of "sure sure that's a known trick BUT"

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        6. Jeff Lonsdale‏ @JeffLonsdale Feb 7
          Replying to @sickofit @ESYudkowsky

          I believe that the argument is that we cant have an unaligned AGI in a box to begin with as if we get to that point we’ve already lost. But it seems a bit fatalistic to assume it is over then and to not give people access to some of the best arguments ahead of time.

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        7. Jeff Lonsdale‏ @JeffLonsdale Feb 7
          Replying to @JeffLonsdale @sickofit @ESYudkowsky

          More importantly, as people outside of Yudkowsky’s direct contact circles start working on this (like say, many Chinese govt funded researchers) the benefit of being more convincing to a specific individual gets smaller compared to the info being out there and available.

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        8. Matt Sperling‏ @sickofit Feb 7
          Replying to @JeffLonsdale @ESYudkowsky

          Remember, if the experiment is "if a chimp can do it, a human will get there but very likely on a different path," then revealing how the chimp did it doesn't really inoculate us.

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        9. Jeff Lonsdale‏ @JeffLonsdale Feb 7
          Replying to @sickofit

          Unlike the chimp, humans have the ability to keep working on these problems over time to understand the next level. If we don’t accept that assumption then worrying about how to ensure AGI is aligned is completely pointless.

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