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Ours is the era of inadequate AI alignment theory. Any other facts about this era are relatively unimportant, but sometimes I tweet about them anyway.

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    1. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 17 Dec 2017

      As an ex-Jew, I have a lot of questions about Christmas, like: - What are the permitted species for a Christmas tree? - How long before Christmas can you purchase a tree before it stops being a “Christmas tree”? - What are the minimum and maximum number of decorations? (1/82349)

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    2. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 17 Dec 2017

      - If no real tree is available, is it better to use a plastic tree or to have no tree that year? - At what age must a child participate in decorating the Christmas tree? - If two ornaments are connected by a string, does that count as one decoration or two decorations? (2/82349)

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      Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 17 Dec 2017

      - If a child too young to read a clock is deceived by Christmas lights into thinking that dawn has come, and unwraps their present, is it permitted for the parent to rewrap the present in new paper and let the child unwrap it again, or must a new present be purchased? (3/82349)

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        1. Eric/‏ @wheatpond 17 Dec 2017
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          Your desire for midrashic levels of exegetical clarity on decoration density puts your “ex” status under suspicion 🤣

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        1.  🤖‏ @ramriot 17 Dec 2017
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          Please stop, the world is not ready for a rational Christmas. We've spent the last 2 millennia just getting traditional Christmas right.

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        1. Richard Korzekwa‏ @WeakInteraction 18 Dec 2017
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          It's actually a new child that must be purchased.

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        1. Lulie‏ @reasonisfun 19 Dec 2017
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          New presents must be purchased. Also true if child finds their Crayola Glow crayons wrapped in the closest a few days prior. (In fact, the hunt for hidden presents and such winnings is part of the fun of Christmas.) #TakingChildrenSeriously

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        1. ows‏ @osteele 17 Dec 2017
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          We used to set the clock four hours ahead so the children could celebrate New Year's at 8pm. Funny thing was, they knew this yet it still worked for them.

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        2. Shamed Maschewitz‏ @ShakedDown 17 Dec 2017
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          The child would get coal. Santa cares not about intentions, only results.

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        3. Victor Levoso‏ @VictorLevoso 17 Dec 2017
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          Would the children getting coal have good results , or is in Santa's utility function to give "bad kids" (by human utilitarian standards) coal?.

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        4. Victor Levoso‏ @VictorLevoso 17 Dec 2017
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          Well Human standars + Santa's preferences about cristmas traditions.I had the relevant smbc in mind when reading your tweet.

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        5. Shamed Maschewitz‏ @ShakedDown 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @VictorLevoso @ESYudkowsky

          As I understand Santa, the end goal of his utility function is to give good (or "nice") kids presents (as appropriate by Christmas tradition) and the bad (or "naughty") kids coal. I'm not sure what his algorithm to determine is, but he can't read minds (hence, hidden cameras).

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        1. Alternate_Data‏ @LouisKronberg 22 Dec 2017
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          I think advent calendars solve number 3.

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        1. Michael Handy‏ @Michaeljhandy 17 Dec 2017
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          We solved this by having ALL presents from Santa, and none under the tree until Christmas day. Also, if the kid can stay up till midnight, it's open season.

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        1. Eugene Legkiy‏ @eugenelegkiy 17 Dec 2017
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          Do you aware that you genuine mind and curiosity for explaining how thing works sometimes bring huge depression and disillusionment in regular people. I wonder what values do you hold on by your self if you deconstructed most values people base their life on ;)

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        2. Bridgett Kay‏ @bkkawaii 17 Dec 2017
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          I came from a strict family who had a lot of riles to prevent this. As the youngest daughter, I was not allowed to go into the living room alone on Christmas morning. Instead, I had to wake my older sister, and if she deemed it an appropriate time, we would go to my parents.

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        3. Bridgett Kay‏ @bkkawaii 17 Dec 2017
          Replying to @bkkawaii @ESYudkowsky

          Since my parents' room was on the other side of the living room, my sister would cover my eyes and we would walk sideways to my parents' room. This would prevent me from seeing the "Santa" gifts that were unwrapped on the hearth. My parents would then give the green light.

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        1. Stephen Saperstein Frug‏ @StephenFrug 17 Dec 2017
          Replying to @ESYudkowsky

          Very Talmudic questions.

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        1. Noah Topper‏ @NoahTopper 17 Dec 2017
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          -Neither, just leave the situation as is. They got an early present.

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