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    Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 12 Dec 2017

    P/S/A: Don't trust the standard-library cryptographic primitives in Haskell.https://leonmergen.com/on-the-state-of-cryptography-in-haskell-c272fb0b6478 …

    3:36 PM - 12 Dec 2017
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    • Release Me From My Flesh Prison Valjan 🏴 kmicu Jesin00 DSM Perry E. Metzger James Prestwich Aleksandr Bulkin [Not giving away crypto] JJ Campuzano vzyifybtqy
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      2. Eitan Chatav‏ @echatav 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        This critique is 2.5 years old and does not include the cryptonite library of @vincenthz

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      3. Leon Mergen‏ @solatis 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @echatav @ESYudkowsky @vincenthz

        Cryptonite looks like it addresses both the entropy and the random number bias problems! I'll update the blog post

        0 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
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      2. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        The guy who maintains most of the noted libraries had an (undisclosed and) unspecified prior job with US Gov't in cryptography. I don't believe this is innocent. cc: @solatispic.twitter.com/mK6U5DYAot

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      3. Leon Mergen‏ @solatis 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @davidmanheim @ESYudkowsky

        It's been a while since I wrote the post, and I'm not sure whether the status quo has changed for Haskell. Ideally someone writes a wrapper around a vetted library like NaCl; I had good hopes for https://github.com/thoughtpolice/salt … , but that appears to be unfinished and unmaintained.

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      1. John Chandler Burnham‏ @John_C_Burnham 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        Unless you don't believe RDRAND has a secret NSA backdoor. And even if they do, just adding in more entropy sources wouldn't necessarily help: http://blog.cr.yp.to/20140205-entropy.html …

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      2. Vincent Hanquez‏ @vincenthz 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @ESYudkowsky

        TIP: don't trust everything you read, despite the headline potential, specially from 3 year ago.

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      3. kmicu‏ @kmicu 15 Dec 2017
        Replying to @vincenthz @ESYudkowsky

        Should I not trust it b/c it is old? Examples are still valid: https://github.com/TomMD/entropy/issues/14#issuecomment-45699556 … or https://github.com/vincenthz/hs-crypto-numbers/blob/crypto-numbers-v0.2.7/Crypto/Number/Generate.hs#L22 …

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      4. Vincent Hanquez‏ @vincenthz 15 Dec 2017
        Replying to @kmicu @ESYudkowsky

        trust what exactly ? My point being do some research before trusting what someone else write. also repeating convenient easy conspirational things (e.g. rdrand is backdoored) doesn't make them right. as to crypto-number, has been deprecated and unused for *more* than 2 years.

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      5. kmicu‏ @kmicu 15 Dec 2017
        Replying to @vincenthz @ESYudkowsky

        crypto-numbers was used in the past and at that time included code generating ‘not necessarily uniform’ distribution. Title should be more explicit that it is relevant to 2015 year, but examples in it are valid in that context.

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      6. Vincent Hanquez‏ @vincenthz 15 Dec 2017
        Replying to @kmicu @ESYudkowsky

        I'm not sure what are you asking here or arguing for here ...

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